Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
Sorry. I've been Reply-All'ing. On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, "C. Bergström" > wrote: >> Is legal-discuss the best way to go forward or something else? > > I'm not sure what the question is, but it doesn't seem like a question > for board@

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:12 PM, C. Bergström wrote: > We appreciate you telling the choir, but it doesn't help resolve this. How > to best proceed? Is legal-discuss the best way to go forward or something > else? > Why? What are you looking for? And who is the expected audience? Again, I have

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:24 PM, C. Bergström wrote: > On 09/13/12 07:43 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> Is that the actionable item of which you speak? You want the ASF to "verify" >> something in the GPLv2? > No - We want to discuss the Apache foundation transferring their rights > granted under th

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:12 PM, "C. Bergström" wrote: > [System lib exception was of course brought up during the BSD discussion, > but it was said that system libraries are usually shipped by default with > the system. This may not always be the case with STDCXX.] In order to best answer this

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread C. Bergström
On 09/13/12 07:43 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Is that the actionable item of which you speak? You want the ASF to "verify" something in the GPLv2? No - We want to discuss the Apache foundation transferring their rights granted under the contributor agreement to another open source foundation.

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread C. Bergström
On 09/13/12 11:40 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Is this all about your point of view that even though Apache stdcxx is designed as a library, esp as a system library, that GPLv2 programs cannot use and link to it because the FSF says that the ALv2 is

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Is this all about your point of view that even though Apache stdcxx > is designed as a library, esp as a system library, that GPLv2 programs > cannot use and link to it because the FSF says that the ALv2 > is incompatible w/ GPLv2? And all th

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:51 AM, C. Bergström wrote: > >> On 09/12/12 05:39 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> DESCRIPTION >>> >>> * There was some licensing FUD discussed on the list, mostly to promote >>> a "rationale" for moving the project els

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:51 AM, C. Bergström wrote: > On 09/12/12 05:39 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> DESCRIPTION >> >> * There was some licensing FUD discussed on the list, mostly to promote >> a "rationale" for moving the project elsewhere and/or releasing >> stdcxx under a different license.

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-12 Thread C. Bergström
On 09/12/12 05:39 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: DESCRIPTION * There was some licensing FUD discussed on the list, mostly to promote a "rationale" for moving the project elsewhere and/or releasing stdcxx under a different license. This has (hopefully) been clarified. You willfully ignore the poi

[REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
DESCRIPTION Apache STDCXX is a collection of algorithms, containers, iterators, and other fundamental components of every piece of software, implemented as C++ classes, templates, and functions essential for writing C++ programs. RELEASES * There has not been a release of stdcxx since 2008. Rene