Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Hi everyone, I can confirm that voting has begun. In terms of timeline, the vote must stay open for one week and then this is a minimum waiting period of a few days after we forward results to the board to have new PMC members added. So please expect another update toward the last week of July. Thanks and regards, Aaron On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:07 AM Richard Zowalla wrote: > Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any > progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest > (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what > the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by > expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can > hopefully get an update. > > I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0 > release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely > manner. > > Gruß > Richard > > Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre > Vermeerbergen: > > +1 > > > > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a > > écrit : > > > > > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > > > > > Gruß > > > Richard > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor > > > Goetz: > > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding > > > > new > > > > members interested in contributing. > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any > > > > > news? > > > > > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In > > > > > the > > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few > > > > > people > > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > > > production. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of > > > > > expanding > > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out > > > > > timely > > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is > > > > > distributed on > > > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who > > > > > runs a > > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project > > > > > to > > > > > sustain. > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > > > resolution to > > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was > > > > > > > positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > > > Official > > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > > > nominations > > > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC > > > > > > > Member/Committer.. > > > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > > > > accordingly. > > > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > manager > > > > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently > > > > > > > (e.g. > > > > > > > only in > > > > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > voting > > > > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks > > > > > > > ready to > > > > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if > > > > > > > necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in > > > > > > > contributing to > > > > > > > the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Hey, I happened to come across the board meeting notes for this month (21st June 2023) which states that: "A report was expected, but not received" (ref: https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Storm.html) Humble request from PMC chair if we can get some traction here. On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:19 PM Alexandre Vermeerbergen < avermeerber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agree with Bipin Prasad, since it seems that we're close to a Storm > 2.5.0 candidate release... > > Le mar. 20 juin 2023 à 17:38, Bipin Prasad > a écrit : > > > > I would urge PMC Chair to give us some guidance on this. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023, 8:32 AM, 6harat < > bharat.gulati.ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > Just wanted to follow-up on the thread initiated by Richard, if there > were > > any updates from the PMC circle that can be shared with the wider > audience. > > Also, curious about if we have any previous roadmap available for the > > further evolution of the project. (I checked on JIRA but wasn't able to > > find one) > > > > I would be interested to help contribute to the project in any way > possible > > out of my personal capacity. (Have used Storm in the enterprise > environment > > for many years) > > I would suggest if the PMC circle can syncup over google meet / zoom > along > > with interested new folks and help decide the way forward. Please let us > > know your thoughts on the same. > > > > Regards > > 6harat > > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:37 PM Richard Zowalla > wrote: > > > > > Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any > > > progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest > > > (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what > > > the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by > > > expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can > > > hopefully get an update. > > > > > > I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0 > > > release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely > > > manner. > > > > > > Gruß > > > Richard > > > > > > Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre > > > Vermeerbergen: > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a > > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding > > > > > > new > > > > > > members interested in contributing. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any > > > > > > > news? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > > > > > production. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of > > > > > > > expanding > > > > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out > > > > > > > timely > > > > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is > > > > > > > distributed on > > > > > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who > > > > > > > runs a > > > > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > sustain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > > > > > resolution to > > > > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was > > > > > > > > > positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > > > > > Official > > > > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > > > > > nominations > > > > > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Agree with Bipin Prasad, since it seems that we're close to a Storm 2.5.0 candidate release... Le mar. 20 juin 2023 à 17:38, Bipin Prasad a écrit : > > I would urge PMC Chair to give us some guidance on this. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023, 8:32 AM, 6harat > wrote: > > Hey, > > Just wanted to follow-up on the thread initiated by Richard, if there were > any updates from the PMC circle that can be shared with the wider audience. > Also, curious about if we have any previous roadmap available for the > further evolution of the project. (I checked on JIRA but wasn't able to > find one) > > I would be interested to help contribute to the project in any way possible > out of my personal capacity. (Have used Storm in the enterprise environment > for many years) > I would suggest if the PMC circle can syncup over google meet / zoom along > with interested new folks and help decide the way forward. Please let us > know your thoughts on the same. > > Regards > 6harat > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:37 PM Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any > > progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest > > (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what > > the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by > > expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can > > hopefully get an update. > > > > I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0 > > release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely > > manner. > > > > Gruß > > Richard > > > > Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre > > Vermeerbergen: > > > +1 > > > > > > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > Goetz: > > > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > > > > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding > > > > > new > > > > > members interested in contributing. > > > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any > > > > > > news? > > > > > > > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In > > > > > > the > > > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few > > > > > > people > > > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > > > > production. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of > > > > > > expanding > > > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out > > > > > > timely > > > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is > > > > > > distributed on > > > > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who > > > > > > runs a > > > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project > > > > > > to > > > > > > sustain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > > > > resolution to > > > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was > > > > > > > > positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > > > > Official > > > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > > > > nominations > > > > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC > > > > > > > > Member/Committer.. > > > > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > > > > > accordingly. > > > > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One important way to
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
I would urge PMC Chair to give us some guidance on this. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, June 20, 2023, 8:32 AM, 6harat wrote: Hey, Just wanted to follow-up on the thread initiated by Richard, if there were any updates from the PMC circle that can be shared with the wider audience. Also, curious about if we have any previous roadmap available for the further evolution of the project. (I checked on JIRA but wasn't able to find one) I would be interested to help contribute to the project in any way possible out of my personal capacity. (Have used Storm in the enterprise environment for many years) I would suggest if the PMC circle can syncup over google meet / zoom along with interested new folks and help decide the way forward. Please let us know your thoughts on the same. Regards 6harat On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:37 PM Richard Zowalla wrote: > Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any > progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest > (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what > the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by > expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can > hopefully get an update. > > I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0 > release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely > manner. > > Gruß > Richard > > Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre > Vermeerbergen: > > +1 > > > > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a > > écrit : > > > > > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > > > > > Gruß > > > Richard > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor > > > Goetz: > > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding > > > > new > > > > members interested in contributing. > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any > > > > > news? > > > > > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In > > > > > the > > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few > > > > > people > > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > > > production. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of > > > > > expanding > > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out > > > > > timely > > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is > > > > > distributed on > > > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who > > > > > runs a > > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project > > > > > to > > > > > sustain. > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > > > resolution to > > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was > > > > > > > positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > > > Official > > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > > > nominations > > > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC > > > > > > > Member/Committer.. > > > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > > > > accordingly. > > > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > manager > > > > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently > > > > > > > (e.g. > > > > > > > only in > > > > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > voting > > > > > > > on releases,
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Hey, Just wanted to follow-up on the thread initiated by Richard, if there were any updates from the PMC circle that can be shared with the wider audience. Also, curious about if we have any previous roadmap available for the further evolution of the project. (I checked on JIRA but wasn't able to find one) I would be interested to help contribute to the project in any way possible out of my personal capacity. (Have used Storm in the enterprise environment for many years) I would suggest if the PMC circle can syncup over google meet / zoom along with interested new folks and help decide the way forward. Please let us know your thoughts on the same. Regards 6harat On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:37 PM Richard Zowalla wrote: > Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any > progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest > (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what > the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by > expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can > hopefully get an update. > > I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0 > release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely > manner. > > Gruß > Richard > > Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre > Vermeerbergen: > > +1 > > > > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a > > écrit : > > > > > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > > > > > Gruß > > > Richard > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor > > > Goetz: > > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding > > > > new > > > > members interested in contributing. > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any > > > > > news? > > > > > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In > > > > > the > > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few > > > > > people > > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > > > production. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of > > > > > expanding > > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out > > > > > timely > > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is > > > > > distributed on > > > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who > > > > > runs a > > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project > > > > > to > > > > > sustain. > > > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > > > resolution to > > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was > > > > > > > positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > > > Official > > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > > > nominations > > > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC > > > > > > > Member/Committer.. > > > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > > > > accordingly. > > > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > manager > > > > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently > > > > > > > (e.g. > > > > > > > only in > > > > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > voting > > > > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks > > > > > > > ready to > > > > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can hopefully get an update. I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0 release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely manner. Gruß Richard Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre Vermeerbergen: > +1 > > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a > écrit : > > > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > > > Gruß > > Richard > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor > > Goetz: > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding > > > new > > > members interested in contributing. > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any > > > > news? > > > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In > > > > the > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few > > > > people > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > > production. > > > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of > > > > expanding > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out > > > > timely > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is > > > > distributed on > > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who > > > > runs a > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project > > > > to > > > > sustain. > > > > > > > > Gruß > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > > Goetz: > > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > > resolution to > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was > > > > > > positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > > Official > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > > nominations > > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors > > > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC > > > > > > Member/Committer.. > > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > > > accordingly. > > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes > > > > > > for > > > > > > new > > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a > > > > > > release > > > > > > manager > > > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently > > > > > > (e.g. > > > > > > only in > > > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have > > > > > > the > > > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to > > > > > > support > > > > > > voting > > > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks > > > > > > ready to > > > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if > > > > > > necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in > > > > > > contributing to > > > > > > the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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+1 Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla a écrit : > > Some weeks passed, any updates? > > Gruß > Richard > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: > > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding new > > members interested in contributing. > > > > - Taylor > > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any news? > > > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In the > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few people > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > > production. > > > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of expanding > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out timely > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is distributed on > > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who runs a > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project to > > > sustain. > > > > > > Gruß > > > Richard > > > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > > Goetz: > > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > > resolution to > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. > > > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > > Official > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > > nominations > > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to > > > > > the > > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > > accordingly. > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for > > > > > new > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release > > > > > manager > > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. > > > > > only in > > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the > > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support > > > > > voting > > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks > > > > > ready to > > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in > > > > > contributing to > > > > > the project. > > > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > > > > >
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Some weeks passed, any updates? Gruß Richard Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding new > members interested in contributing. > > - Taylor > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any news? > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In the > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few people > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > production. > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of expanding > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out timely > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is distributed on > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who runs a > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project to > > sustain. > > > > Gruß > > Richard > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > Goetz: > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > resolution to > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > Official > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > nominations > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to > > > > the > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > accordingly. > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for > > > > new > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release > > > > manager > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. > > > > only in > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support > > > > voting > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks > > > > ready to > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. > > > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in > > > > contributing to > > > > the project. > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Thanks, Taylor! Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: > Thanks for the reminder Richard, > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding new > members interested in contributing. > > - Taylor > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any news? > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In the > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few people > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into > > production. > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of expanding > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out timely > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is distributed on > > more than just 2 shoulders. > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who runs a > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project to > > sustain. > > > > Gruß > > Richard > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > Any updates? :-) > > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor > > > Goetz: > > > > Quick update: > > > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the > > > > resolution to > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. > > > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. > > > > Official > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason > > > > nominations > > > > can’t be public. > > > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to > > > > the > > > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up > > > > accordingly. > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for > > > > new > > > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release > > > > manager > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. > > > > only in > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support > > > > voting > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks > > > > ready to > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. > > > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in > > > > contributing to > > > > the project. > > > > > > > > - Taylor > > > > > > > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Thanks for the reminder Richard, In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding new members interested in contributing. - Taylor > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla wrote: > > Hello, > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any news? > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In the process, > a few people volunteered to help with the project. > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the proposal. > Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few people planning to just fork > Storm to get an updated version into production. > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into maintenance > mode, then we should urgently take care of expanding the PMC/Committers > circle, so that we are able to put out timely releases again and the work > regarding maintenance is distributed on more than just 2 shoulders. > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who runs a Storm > Cluster in production and would love to help the project to sustain. > > Gruß > Richard > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: >> Any updates? :-) >> >> Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... >> >> Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: >>> Quick update: >>> >>> The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the resolution to >>> change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. >>> >>> The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. Official >>> votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason nominations >>> can’t be public. >>> >>> So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to the >>> PMC. Feel free to: >>> >>> 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. >>> 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer >>> >>> I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up accordingly. >>> Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for new >>> members will be announced on the public lists. >>> >>> One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release manager >>> for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. only in >>> response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the >>> bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support voting >>> on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks ready to >>> step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. >>> >>> Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in contributing to >>> the project. >>> >>> - Taylor >> >>
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Hello, I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any news? We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In the process, a few people volunteered to help with the project. A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few people planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into production. If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of expanding the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out timely releases again and the work regarding maintenance is distributed on more than just 2 shoulders. Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who runs a Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project to sustain. Gruß Richard On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote: > Any updates? :-) > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: > > Quick update: > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the resolution to > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. Official > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason nominations > > can’t be public. > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to the > > PMC. Feel free to: > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up accordingly. > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for new > > members will be announced on the public lists. > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release manager > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. only in > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support voting > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks ready to > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in contributing to > > the project. > > > > - Taylor > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Any updates? :-) Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon... Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: > Quick update: > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the resolution to > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. Official > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason nominations > can’t be public. > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to the > PMC. Feel free to: > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up accordingly. > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for new > members will be announced on the public lists. > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release manager > for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. only in > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support voting > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks ready to > step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in contributing to > the project. > > - Taylor signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Hi Taylor, as written in the other thread, I am happy to help. If needed, I can also work on doing the mechanical work of a release (already knowing the quirks with asf infrastructure). Gruß Richard Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor Goetz: > Quick update: > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the resolution to > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. Official > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason nominations > can’t be public. > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to the > PMC. Feel free to: > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up accordingly. > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for new > members will be announced on the public lists. > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release manager > for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. only in > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support voting > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks ready to > step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in contributing to > the project. > > - Taylor
[DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors
Quick update: The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the resolution to change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was positive. The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group. Official votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason nominations can’t be public. So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors to the PMC. Feel free to: 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC Member/Committer.. 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up accordingly. Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes for new members will be announced on the public lists. One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a release manager for any given release, even if we release infrequently (e.g. only in response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have the bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to support voting on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks ready to step into that role, but we can get by with one if necessary. Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in contributing to the project. - Taylor
