Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
On 2/13/07, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. Spring uses Docbook. That's what I am going to try: single html page (everything), multiple html pages, and PDF. For DocBook under Windows, I've been having good luck with * TextPad * xlstproc * Apache FOP The trick is to use xmllint

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Philip Luppens
Ok, any chance for a summary with roles on who's going to do what, and in what timeframe ? Although limited in spare time (aren't we all), I'm definitely willing to work on this (and I assume Musachy as well), but I would appreciate directions or a concrete plan. Shoot. Phil On 2/14/07, Ted

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
I don't have the time to work on a significant refactoring this year. The most I can do is help keep what we have patched and up-to-date. As a PMC member, I would be opposed to any project-sanctioned effort that is going to create a set of redundant documents that would be made part of a

Re: Status of 2.0.6 (Re: [VOTE] Struts 2.0.5 Quality)

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
So, tonight is last call on 2.0.6. Please try to take a look at the TODO list, if you have a chance. * https://issues.apache.org/struts/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hiderequestId=10764 A fix for WW-1711 that didn't break the tests (or updated tests) would be especially welcome! -Ted. On

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Philip Luppens
I understand we don't want duplicated docs, but at the moment, we have to realize our Developers Guide is a mix of a Users Guide, Developers Guide and Reference Guide. If we take the following 'definitions' into account: - Developers: in-depth architecture, creating and extending Interceptors,

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
In Struts in Action, as with many text books, we included Developer information at the foot of a section or chapter as appropriate. So first, we covered the user material and then we covered the developer material, without creating two content streams. I don't see that mixing the two is a bad

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Philip Luppens
Ok, sounds fine to me. Then we'll drop the User Guide, and start writing on those missing chapters. Btw, the crud tutorial: should we make a part II where we use a real database (in combination with Spring and Hibernate) ? I've updated it and verified it to work on S2, but WW-1711 is used in the

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
Sadly, Hibernate's a bit of sticky wicket, because of the whole LGPL thing. We could do iBATIS, or Spring JDBC, or JPA, or anything under a compatible license. * http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html I've been wondering if Hibernate or iBATIS plugins would make any sense. As to the

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Dave Newton
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So first, we covered the user material and then we covered the developer material, without creating two content streams. FWIW, I think two completely separate content streams is definitely a Bad Thing. I'd rather see a tutorial with sidebars containing

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Dave Newton
--- Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I guess there's also a {float...} element; I tried a little test on the Result annotation page (not much in it, proof-of-concept). It might be a good way to get links to additional info w/o breaking the default flow of the page. Dave

Re: Users guide

2007-02-14 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 2/14/07, Dave Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that would help clean up the wiki guides is to format it more like a book: sidebars really work and are much less disruptive than a browser-width highlighted section. I don't know if that's possible with Confluence, but it sure could be

Re: archetype

2007-02-14 Thread Musachy Barroso
I'm getting this again on my windows box, could this be coming from the sitemesh plugin who has 2 optional references to velocity? : java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/velocity/app/VelocityEngine at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods0(Native Method) at

[S2] wiki width

2007-02-14 Thread Dave Newton
One thing that might help wiki readability is to reduce the width of the page; it's hard to read wide pages like that. Just an ideer. d. Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo!

Re: [S2] wiki width

2007-02-14 Thread Ted Husted
That's driven by the Confluence template used by the autoexport plugin. I checked in a copy of what we are using now. I think the only change from the default was to embed the licensing and copyright blurbs. * http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/confluence/ but, this

Re: [S2] wiki width

2007-02-14 Thread David Blevins
On Feb 14, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Ted Husted wrote: That's driven by the Confluence template used by the autoexport plugin. I checked in a copy of what we are using now. I think the only change from the default was to embed the licensing and copyright blurbs. *