Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-12 Thread Ted Husted
There are some links on the RoadMap pages for the likely Bugzilla queries. * http://struts.apache.org/roadmap.html The vast majority of the tickets are enhancement requests. A good number of these might be already implemented and could be closed as redundant.. The others might be organized into

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-12 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I'm willing to take on some of this. I figure a small step first... Can anyone verify for me the total number of tickets in Bugzilla as of this day is 2404? I came to this by doing a search on product Struts with all possible statuses selected. Are those the correct parameters to get that met

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-12 Thread Ted Husted
+1 Except that Apache open source projects don't really "allow" people to fill roles. People start filling the roles, and then we recognize their contribution -- mainly by granting the system permissions (or "karma") to make the contributions directly. Right now, anyone has karma to bugzilla or

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-12 Thread Ted Husted
(Inline.) On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:06:19 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's fair that there was discussion, but an obvious problem is still > apparent... I've only been on the lists for a couple of months. I would > certainly think no one expects a person to go through the e

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-12 Thread Ted Husted
The underlying problem with the upload proposal on the wiki is > "I have a full application, but no sense putting it all here if there is no > interest." The best way to generate interest is to post a working example. If you want to pique interest, you have to go the whole nine yards. Else, sta

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Hubert Rabago wrote: Joe most recently mention this sometime last month: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-dev&m=110842402707799&w=2 Yep, I was involved in that thread :) The one thing I will say is that the whole discussion of "view controllers" and "page prep" is really different than wha

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Dakota Jack
+42 On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:59:46 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Project management in itself isn't a bad thing, but a very good > thing. It's when > > the project managers are perceived to be the bosses of development, > instead of > > its se

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Project management in itself isn't a bad thing, but a very good thing. It's when > the project managers are perceived to be the bosses of development, instead of > its secretaries, that there's a problem. I think there are folks who could > contribute alot to open sour

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Dakota Jack
I am not interested in having an upload application accepted by Struts. Why would I be interested in that? The lack of interest is in making Struts accommodate these differences with the way it handles multipart request processing. I changed the application to accommondate that and the entirety

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread dbrosius
Quoting "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As much as I hate to say it, sometimes engineers being project managers > is a bad idea. Perhaps open-source community-driven development > projects should come to that conclusion and separate the project > managers from the developers. Ju

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Hubert Rabago
Hi Frank, I've been participating in discussions about the feature you proposed since last year, and I've been looking to participate in its inclusion into Struts. > As you said, there did seem to be a lot of support for an idea along the > lines of what I did, so it seemed like something that sh

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Joe Germuska wrote: Well, that was me, actually. And there had been lots of prior discussion, as cited by Hubert in three URLs in a message which motivated me to finally do it. That prior discussion dates back more than a year. Yep, I found it in my trash folder. Sorry for the confusion! :) I

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Joe Germuska
Also, we don't know what you guys are cooking up many times, as evidenced by the addition (I believe it was Martin) made a night or two ago that was along the lines of what I had done but for the 1.3 branch... it seems like my work prompted him to do something similar, and because he could simp

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I couldn't find it in the archives, but I did find it in my own trash folder... It was actually from Joe, in reply to Hubert, as part of the discussion about what I was doing. As I said, it's not exactly what I did, but it is very much along the same lines, except that it's for the 1.3 branch,

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I feel that Jack is on to something important here... the ability for "outsiders" to work on Struts seems to me an almost impossible task. We are constantly told "make a proposal", "put it up in the Wiki" or "open a ticket with your suggestions", but the problem with that is that we are spendin

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Hi Joe, I'm not burnt out at this point, and I wouldn't even say bitter. I may have been initially, I am human and so react with emotion, same as anyone. A more objective review of the situation in the intervening time though has lead me to a place where I am a bit frustrated by my inability

Re: Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Dakota Jack
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:42:20 -0600, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 8:29 AM -0800 3/11/05, Dakota Jack wrote: > >Thanks, Frank. I posted this code in response to Ted's suggestion > >that this is the way to go to establish a dialogue with the committers > >on code. > > I would totall

Approaches to Contributing to Struts (Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload)

2005-03-11 Thread Joe Germuska
At 8:29 AM -0800 3/11/05, Dakota Jack wrote: Thanks, Frank. I posted this code in response to Ted's suggestion that this is the way to go to establish a dialogue with the committers on code. I would totally endorse Ted's suggestion. The best approach is to publicly document approaches and, where

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-11 Thread Dakota Jack
There are, in other words, only about 15 lines of code that are relevant: here they are: 1.1.1. MultipartFile public interface MultipartFile extends Serializable { public longgetSize(); public voidsetSize(long fileSize); public String getName(); public void

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-11 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Martin, but I think that your suggestion is not related to what I am trying to do. I have gotten rid of code in the last formulation to make this clear. Only the first three interfaces are really important and nothing has changed in those ever. What I am suggesting is using those inter

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-11 Thread Martin Cooper
I'm not sure how many of the committers relish the idea of reading through about 1,000 lines of completely uncommented code and trying to understand what it all means. And that on a wiki page, rather than in their favourite editor where they would have syntax colouring and could jump around at will

[Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-11 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-11T09:10:32 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -1,78 +1,14 @@ == Overview == -Ut

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-11 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Frank. I posted this code in response to Ted's suggestion that this is the way to go to establish a dialogue with the committers on code. -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ -

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I gotta be honest with you, I've never used the upload capability in Struts. I only needed upload functionality in one Struts app I wrote, and it was an application that was originally using my old custom framework that had its own way of doing uploads, so that just got ported with the app. S

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-10 Thread Dakota Jack
Frank, I probably should have said that the NAMES of the first three classes should be mapped to their present counterparts. Jack On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:26:57 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, Frank, > > If you don't mind, I would like to talk to you a bit about what you >

[Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-10 Thread dev
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Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-10 Thread Dakota Jack
Hello, Frank, If you don't mind, I would like to talk to you a bit about what you think is needed, so that I can be effective. Essentially the code is an attempt to do two things: 1. Show how a slight change which can be made consistent with past upload code in Struts can make life good for peo

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2005-03-10 Thread dev
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2005-03-10 Thread dev
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Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-10 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Jack, one comment on this... I think it would be helpful to comment the code you've posted. Frank dev@struts.apache.org wrote: Date: 2005-03-10T21:20:10 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Chan

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2005-03-10 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-10T21:20:10 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -70,10 +70,13 @@ 3. !UploadFileIt

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2005-03-10 Thread dev
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2005-03-10 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-10T16:09:41 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -,7 +,7 @@ } retur

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2005-03-10 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-10T15:26:05 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -734,7 +734,7 @@ private int

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2005-03-08 Thread dev
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2005-03-07 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-07T11:44:13 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -495,7 +495,7 @@ public InputSt

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2005-03-07 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-07T10:34:57 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -753,6 +753,24 @@ public String

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2005-03-06 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-06T04:53:48 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -40,15 +40,15 @@ } }}} -The poin

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2005-03-06 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-06T00:31:31 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -14,32 +14,27 @@ throws Excep

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-05 Thread Dakota Jack
o: "Struts Developers List" > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload > > > Perhaps I should have added, James, that I previewed all the > > submissions many times before saving them. > > > > > > O

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-05 Thread James Mitchell
ROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload Perhaps I should have added, James, that I previewed all the submissions many times before saving them. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 00:00:39 -0500, James Mitchell

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-05 Thread Dakota Jack
ead of the "Save" when making multiple changes. That helps > keep the noise down ;) > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist > EdgeTech, Inc. > 678.910.8017 > AIM: jmitchtx > > - Original Message - > From: > To: >

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-05 Thread Dakota Jack
;Preview" instead of the "Save" when making multiple changes. That helps > keep the noise down ; > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist > EdgeTech, Inc. > 678.910.8017 > AIM: jmitchtx > > - Original Message -

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload

2005-03-05 Thread James Mitchell
--- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 6:30 PM Subject: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsUpload Date: 2005-03-05T15:30:46 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload n

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2005-03-05 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-05T15:30:46 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -1,5 +1,50 @@ == Overview == +Uti

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2005-03-05 Thread dev
Date: 2005-03-05T13:06:58 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -200,7 +200,7 @@ public UploadMul

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2005-03-05 Thread dev
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2005-03-04 Thread dev
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2005-03-04 Thread dev
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2005-03-03 Thread dev
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2005-03-03 Thread dev
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2005-03-03 Thread dev
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Date: 2005-03-03T00:03:17 Editor: DakotaJack Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsUpload URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUpload no comment Change Log: -- @@ -8,20 +8,22 @@ === Framework Code

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2005-03-02 Thread dev
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2005-03-02 Thread dev
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2005-03-02 Thread dev
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2005-03-02 Thread dev
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2005-03-02 Thread dev
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2005-03-02 Thread dev
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2005-03-01 Thread dev
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2005-03-01 Thread dev
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2005-03-01 Thread dev
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