Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-07-05 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-07-03 Thread Rainer Hermanns
+ 1 as well for Struts 1.x and 2.x +1 +1 to which? ;-) I'm for just calling them Struts 1.x and Struts 2.x, not the Struts2 version 2.1 idea. We went through that for a while with WebWork, and it was confusing. - Posted

Stupid Struts Movement... Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-07-01 Thread Frans Thamura @ Meruvian
Michael Jouravlev wrote: Mua-ha-ha :-)) +1 on renaming back. how about renaming back become WebWork :) hue hue... so, we, the Webwork user dont have to refactor our job. keep the WW 2.x become WW, and the WW 3.x become Struts 2.0 rather thatn right now, all of you make me wasting my time

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-07-01 Thread Dakota Jack
I think everyone knows by now that this brevity is bad programming? On 6/30/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
God yes, Don. Please don't let them go nuts again. Here you are in the reach of sanity. Stay the course! On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm against official code names. We have had enough confusion in Struts with different names meaning different things, and we shouldn't

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
Heh, what about Struts? That might work? And, then, like the rest of the world, you could have versions like 1.* and 2.*, and 3.*. Oh, that was the proposal which the newly knighted can't seem to stomach. Too rational. On 6/28/06, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very much

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0becomes Struts 2.0 2. We rename the https

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0 becomes Struts 2.0 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/actionsubversion directory as https

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Dakota Jack
Give it up! Lord! What nonsense. Do you hate versioning, Paul? On 6/28/06, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am guessing the winner is going to be struts1/struts2 So if struts1 is: org.apache.struts If struts2: org.apache.struts2 ? Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2 Or repos/asf/struts/framework repos/asf/struts/framework2 I like struts1/struts2. Or, in the interest of brevity,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Brett Porter
(from the peanut gallery) How about: repos/asf/struts/branches/struts-1.3/... repos/asf/struts/trunk (2.0, 2.1, 3.0 goes here) It's not like you're the first project here to have had a 1.3 v 2.0 issue :) http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/branches/1.3.x/ Cheers, Brett On 30/06/06,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Paul Benedict
If we do not have different package names, we cannot run both Struts 1 and Struts 2 in the same web application. So it's very important to encode the version into the pacakge structure. Otherwise, the migration path to Struts 2 is all or none. This is not a unique idea; this has been espoused

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/30/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (from the peanut gallery) How about: repos/asf/struts/branches/struts-1.3/... repos/asf/struts/trunk (2.0, 2.1, 3.0 goes here) Yep, and different teams have tried different approaches :) Maven has maven-1 under the root *

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jun 30, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Now, in place of Tapestry4 and Tapestry5. we now have struts-action and struts-action2 * http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/struts/ which we could just rename to struts1 and struts2. That sounds good to me. I was just asking if we wanted to make

RE: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread George.Dinwiddie
Greg Reddin sagely replied: On Jun 30, 2006, at 9:58 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Now, in place of Tapestry4 and Tapestry5. we now have struts-action and struts-action2 * http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/struts/ which we could just rename to struts1 and struts2. That sounds good to me.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/29/06, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am guessing the winner is going to be struts1/struts2 So if struts1 is: org.apache.struts If struts2: org.apache.struts2 ? Yes, the other piece of surgery would be moving

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-30 Thread Paul Benedict
I only have an inclination against s1/s2. Otherwise, struts/struts2 or struts1/struts2 or action1/action2 is fine by me. Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/30/06, Brett Porter wrote: (from the peanut gallery) How about: repos/asf/struts/branches/struts-1.3/... repos/asf/struts/trunk

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-29 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/28/06, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key I think is making it clear that 2.x really is something new Yes, if you look at the Migration Guide * http://struts.apache.org/struts-action2/docs/Migration%20Guide.html three of the four strategies involve either leaving S1 code

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-29 Thread Patrick Lightbody
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-29 Thread Jason Carreira
+1 +1 to which? ;-) I'm for just calling them Struts 1.x and Struts 2.x, not the Struts2 version 2.1 idea. We went through that for a while with WebWork, and it was confusing. - Posted via Jive Forums

[PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0 becomes Struts 2.0 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/action subversion directory as https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0 becomes Struts 2.0 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/action subversion directory as https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/framework, keep the other top level directories the same What do you think of... repos/asf/struts/struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
Wendy Smoak wrote: On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/action subversion directory as https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/framework, keep the other top level directories the same What do you think of...

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/28/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, hoping not to hijaack this thread I would suggest coming up with codenames for 1.x and 2.x codebases. If we were to do that, the obvious choices would be Classic for 1.x and Action for 2.x. -Ted.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
I'm against official code names. We have had enough confusion in Struts with different names meaning different things, and we shouldn't pile on more names. If folks want to off-hand use code names, that's fine, but to have them used in code or documentation is too far. Version 1 and 2 are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Bob Lee
project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0 becomes Struts 2.0 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think of... repos/asf/struts/struts repos/asf/struts/struts2 Very true, I forgot that we have different directories for SAF1 and SAF2. The struts/struts is redundant, but I could live with that. But ViewVC might not :) It

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2 Or repos/asf/struts/framework repos/asf/struts/framework2 I like struts1/struts2. Don -Ted.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I am very much against naming 1.x Classic . I think it's a horrible name. I think of classical music, classic cars, and anything that smells of belonging in a museum (stationary, old, idle, doesn't move, better looked at than used). Why do we need it? I am totally fond of action and action2.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts Action as Struts. The ramifications of such a renaming up for discussion: 1. Struts Action 1.3 becomes Struts 1.3 and Struts Action 2.0 becomes Struts 2.0

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rename Struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 6/28/06, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does having the departure of Shale instigate nomenclature madness? :-) Struts Action Framework is actually a very professional title and I prefer we keep it as is. When Shale arrived, we tried various ways to differentiate the original

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2 Or repos/asf/struts/framework repos/asf/struts/framework2 I like struts1/struts2. Yep, I do too. It's simple and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 6/28/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2 Or repos/asf/struts/framework

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 6/29/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like struts1/struts2. +1 Niall Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I am guessing the winner is going to be struts1/struts2 So if struts1 is: org.apache.struts If struts2: org.apache.struts2 ? Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/29/06, Don Brown wrote: I like struts1/struts2. +1 Niall Don