Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-26 Thread scud
+0 - Posted via Jive Forums http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=27314&messageID=54494#54494 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-26 Thread Taras Puchko
Currently both tools (Retroweaver and Retrotranslator) have verifier that is able to trap most of such errors. Taras > When you say: "when you use a new method by mistake", > are you refering > to using API available only on 1.5? If so, this is a > known problem, > and indeed it is difficult to

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Alexandru Popescu
When you say: "when you use a new method by mistake", are you refering to using API available only on 1.5? If so, this is a known problem, and indeed it is difficult to trap it. ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. On 4/26/06, netsql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have used retroweaver... and it does

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread netsql
I have used retroweaver... and it does not work. (when you use a new method by mistake). People that are on IBM or BEA old version can keep using old version of Struts/WW2. When they upgrade to JEE5 then they can have more options. .V Jason Carreira wrote: +1 from me --

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Jason Carreira
+1 from me - Posted via Jive Forums http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=27314&messageID=54288#54288 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] F

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread tm jee
+1

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Rene Gielen
+1 - retroweaver looks really promising, and it's feature list wipes away all my concerns about switching to Java 5. For the runtime annotation support, XWork-Tiger / Tiger Extensions for Shale point to the right direction how to utilize these without forcing users to switch to Java 5. As Rainer a

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Alexandru Popescu
Oh yes... it is +1. I was only discussing only about the promise to support 1.4. We've been doing this in TestNG and I want to let you know, that even if the sourcebase is smaller than WW, we've been facing from time to time problems doing this :-). ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. On 4/25/06, Do

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Rainer Hermanns
Hey there, I would like to see Struts Action 2 support Java 5 as the default platform, so +1 from me. If Retroweaver and/or Retrotranslater provide "full" support for Java 5 language extensions we should definately use it/them to have a Java 1.4 compliant version as well. Haven't looked a

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Erik Bertelsen
> -- > [ ] +1 Make Java 5 the target > ' +1 - Erik

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Ricardo Lecheta
Hi, +0 . I like the java 5 features, but I can't use it right now, since the companies I work for, don't have application servers with java 5. So I am very interested to have jdk 1.4 support. I particularly don't care if all the features will not be available for jdk1.4 users :-) thanks Ricar

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Ian Roughley
+1 - as this is the next version of struts I think it makes sense to make this move now. There is always webwork 2.2.2 for users that require a JDK 1.4, which will allow for the majority of the framework features and an easy stepping stone over to struts2. /Ian Don Brown wrote: There has bee

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Leon Rosenberg
+1 Leon On 4/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been a lot of discussion on Java 5 support for Struts Action 2, and > from my reading of the comments, we have > settled on a path, but I want to formalize it in a vote to ensure we are all > on the same page. > > I vote we de

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Taras Puchko
Hi all! I wrote Retrotranslator - a tool like Retroweaver, but it supports generics and annotations at runtime, so it is even possible to run JAXB 2 on JRE 1.4: http://retrotranslator.sourceforge.net/ http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t66348.html Taras

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [x] +0 I am fine with this move, but I'll still mainly interested in 1.4 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
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Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Ditto... +1 along with Bob, Don, and James - Posted via Jive Forums http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=27314&messageID=53785#53785 - To unsubscr

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Gabe
- From: Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:49:14 PM Subject: Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver So... is that a +1? :) As for annotations, I'd imagine we'd keep the XML as override so most anythin

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread James Mitchell
+1 -- Git 'r dun!! -- James Mitchell On Apr 24, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Don Brown wrote: There has been a lot of discussion on Java 5 support for Struts Action 2, and from my reading of the comments, we have settled on a path, but I want to formalize it in a vote to ensure we are all on the

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Bob Lee
+1 to that. Bob On 4/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig McClanahan wrote: > > I think a better strategy would be to have the core framework depend solely > > on 1.4, but provide an optional layer on top which leverages 1.5 things for > > those who actually do have a 1.5 runtime e

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Don Brown
Craig McClanahan wrote: I think a better strategy would be to have the core framework depend solely on 1.4, but provide an optional layer on top which leverages 1.5 things for those who actually do have a 1.5 runtime environment. That's the approach taken by the "Tiger Extensions" to Shale[1].

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Alexandru Popescu
Craig, you are almost right :-). You can store annotations in the bytecode (check the class, field, method attributes), and we've done this in AspectWerkz and AspectJ for quite a while ;-). The problem is consuming them. ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. On 4/25/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 4/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So... is that a +1? :) > > As for annotations, I'd imagine we'd keep the XML as override so most > anything you can do with annotations, you could > also do in XML. This would give Java 1.4 users mostly the same > capabilities. I think he was

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Don Brown
So... is that a +1? :) As for annotations, I'd imagine we'd keep the XML as override so most anything you can do with annotations, you could also do in XML. This would give Java 1.4 users mostly the same capabilities. Don Alexandru Popescu wrote: This looks quite nice. I cannot figure out w

Re: [action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Alexandru Popescu
This looks quite nice. I cannot figure out what means support for annotations. Even if they are left inside the classbytecode, you will not have access to the API to use them (except the case they are weaving the Class.class, but I really don't think so). ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. On 4/24/

[action2] [VOTE] Target Java 5, support 1.4 through Retroweaver

2006-04-24 Thread Don Brown
There has been a lot of discussion on Java 5 support for Struts Action 2, and from my reading of the comments, we have settled on a path, but I want to formalize it in a vote to ensure we are all on the same page. I vote we develop Struts Action 2 with Java 5, taking advantage of it where ever w