2008/4/9, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> If we had been adding contributors to the POM from the beginning of
> Struts,
> the POM would have several hundred lines of contributor information in it
> by
> now.
I got your point, in fact Struts (1 and 2) is a really big and popular
project, s
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 2008/4/9, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Antonio Petrelli <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > 2008/4/8, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > I meant, if
2008/4/9, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Antonio Petrelli <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> > 2008/4/8, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I meant, if a contributor helped with the help of a company, then we
> > should
> > > write:
> > > Wendy W
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 2008/4/8, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I meant, if a contributor helped with the help of a company, then we
> should
> > write:
> > Wendy Windham (FooBar Co.)
> > with no links, something really simple.
>
>
2008/4/8, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I meant, if a contributor helped with the help of a company, then we should
> write:
> Wendy Windham (FooBar Co.)
> with no links, something really simple.
With an e-mail in Tiles-dev mailing list, Greg Reddin made me notice
that Shale maintains a
On Tue, April 8, 2008 9:30 am, Martin Gilday wrote:
> How do you decide if the dontated feature is large enough to warrant
> creditation?
All of my open-source projects run under the idea that *every*
contribution of *any* size should be acknowledged. Each of them (JWP and
DataVision for example)
Ted said all I had in mind about this, now, none of it goes against
Don's proposal, except maybe point #4 right? If we recognize the
individual as "Wendy from BigCo" it will be on the release notes, so
it will be on the website somewhere. Would that fulfill point #4, or
you meant "somewhere on the
uts Developers List"
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:08:17 +1000
Subject: Feature sponsorship proposal
As more and more companies start using open source software, many,
like mine, are looking for ways to give back to the community. They
want a way to contribute and ensure their contribution will be
2008/4/8, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Right, but in this case were talking about the corporations that
> contributors work for.
Sorry, I forgot an entire sentence :-O
I meant, if a contributor helped with the help of a company, then we should
write:
Wendy Windham (FooBar Co.)
with n
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Antonio Petrelli
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/4/8, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > Would be good to clear this with the PRC - I seem to recall a similar
> > discussion where a project was crediting a company for a couple of
> > free licenses a
2008/4/8, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Would be good to clear this with the PRC - I seem to recall a similar
> discussion where a project was crediting a company for a couple of
> free licenses and someone from the PRC pointed out that it might upset
> the official ASF sponsors[1] if th
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly - I'm not suggesting we change how we accept contributions at
> all and of course, we would try to give credit to individuals where
> desired, but look at it this way: if IBM donated a server to us, would
> we credit
Exactly - I'm not suggesting we change how we accept contributions at
all and of course, we would try to give credit to individuals where
desired, but look at it this way: if IBM donated a server to us, would
we credit the person who processed the order or the company that
purchased the computer?
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But, saying thanks to Wendy's employer might cross the line. One of
> our precepts is that ASF projects are "composed of individuals, and so
> we give the credit to individuals. The farthest we might be able to go
> is to s
> Apache just plain wouldn't exist without corporate support.
And a lot of corporations wouldn't exist without our software to run
their business :)
-T.
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The core issue in this proposal is something that has bothered me
> about Struts for years - we do a poor job giving credit to
> contributors. I remember this one Open Source project I started
> playing with that would inc
Ok, a couple of things here.
First, that's not exactly what I said. I wasn't talking about recognition.
I was talking about the use of financial incentives as motivation.
I'm all for recognition. If you remember a few years back ([0] and [1]),
the ASF decided we needed to strip the @author tags
I think you are assuming the community isn't composed of Corporations,
when in fact, they play an important part in almost every successful
Open Source project. From providing hardware to sponsoring
conferences to paying developers to work on projects, companies play a
critical role in the communi
Thanks Henri for that clarification.
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From: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Feature sponsorship proposal
To: James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It&
James Mitchell wrote:
I'm inclined to vote down anything mixing Community and Corporate agenda. I
think that's just a bad mix. In fact, the ASF has specific rules/guidelines
with respect to corporate involvement (employment) with too many project
Do you have that reference ?
leads.
Ther
I will tell you this, I hate overt marketing.
When I go to the Movies and they start playing commercials, not
previews, I'll close my eyes, put my fingers in my ears or walk out to
take a break.
My wife laughs at me since her background is Marketing Research and says
it doesn't bother her. S
this unconcerned. Again, to quote James,
if volunteers don't step in on their own, there's a different problem.
Bye,
-Ralf
[1] http://struts.apache.org/helping.html#corp
[2] http://apachecon.com/
> - Original Message - From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Al.
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Subject: Re: Feature sponsorship proposal
I'm inclined to vote down anything mixing Community and Corporate agenda.
I'm inclined to vote down anything mixing Community and Corporate agenda. I
think that's just a bad mix. In fact, the ASF has specific rules/guidelines
with respect to corporate involvement (employment) with too many project
leads.
There's a reason that Apache projects are so successful, in one
Don I have a few questions
1) I agree that this contribution has to be valuable to the contributing
company
both technically and marketing. Back in 2003 when I obtained free
IntelliJ licenses from Jetbrains for the Struts
Committers all they wanted was acknowledgment on our web page and that
w
On 4/7/08, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> Thoughts?
>
Sounds good, if you can create a good list (I guess you could pick
them of the 'if I had a 1000 hours to give ..'), and find a way to
sign up for it, and give credit back where credit is due. Also, if
they have something the
Great idea! Anything that propels s2 development is a great initiative :)>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:08:17 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
dev@struts.apache.org> Subject: Feature sponsorship proposal> > As more and
more companies start using open source software, man
+1
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As more and more companies start using open source software, many,
> like mine, are looking for ways to give back to the community. They
> want a way to contribute and ensure their contribution will be noticed
> and apprec
As more and more companies start using open source software, many,
like mine, are looking for ways to give back to the community. They
want a way to contribute and ensure their contribution will be noticed
and appreciated. What if we had a feature sponsorship program that
encouraged companies to
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