Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-22 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 5/22/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patrick pointed out that JIRA notifications are still showing up in the forum. I tried unsubscribing [EMAIL PROTECTED] from issues@ again, but the reply indicates that the address was not subscribed. Mystery solved! Martin noticed that the n

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-22 Thread Martin Cooper
On 5/22/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/15/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is done. As a moderator, I sent the unsubscribe > requests, then replied to the confirmation emails, but I never saw the > 'goodbye' message. Let me know if you still see non-d

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-22 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 5/15/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this is done. As a moderator, I sent the unsubscribe requests, then replied to the confirmation emails, but I never saw the 'goodbye' message. Let me know if you still see non-discussion emails in the forum after today. Patrick point

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-15 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 5/14/06, Patrick Lightbody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It looks like this is now basically done (the JIRA issue is complete). The final step will be to unsubscribe the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] from all lists except for the dev@ list. That will keep the forums synced on the OpenSymphony foru

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
It looks like this is now basically done (the JIRA issue is complete). The final step will be to unsubscribe the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] from all lists except for the dev@ list. That will keep the forums synced on the OpenSymphony forums limited to just the discussions. I was trying to figure

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 5/13/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/12/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks ... I meant to do that, but got distracted by preparations for a demo > I'm going to do in the Tuesday keynote next week. It'll be a fun one ... > you'll want to make sure you se

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-13 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 5/12/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks ... I meant to do that, but got distracted by preparations for a demo I'm going to do in the Tuesday keynote next week. It'll be a fun one ... you'll want to make sure you see it :-) Is this during the 8:30-10:30 general session?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-12 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 5/12/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/11/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to do this, but my "apmail" karma only works on the mail server, not > on minotaur where this particular file needs to be edited. Done. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFR

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-12 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 5/11/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried to do this, but my "apmail" karma only works on the mail server, not on minotaur where this particular file needs to be edited. Done. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-802 -- Wendy --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-11 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 5/11/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/1/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-11 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 5/1/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is > > that something that someone here can fix, or d

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 5/1/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin was the one that knew the steps - I've not done anything with the wikidiffs myself. :) Aha ... note to self ... match the names to the indent levels :-) Cheers, Brett Craig On 5/2/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-01 Thread Brett Porter
Martin was the one that knew the steps - I've not done anything with the wikidiffs myself. :) Cheers, Brett On 5/2/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 4/30/06, Brett

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 5/1/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience. > > > > I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits > > to save

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On 5/1/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience. > > I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits > to save the moderators some time. Thanks, Brett! We also need to send

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-05-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/30/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience. I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits to save the moderators some time. Thanks, Brett! We also need to send the Wiki diffs to commits@ instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-30 Thread James Mitchell
Excellent and thanks for all your help. -- James Mitchell On Apr 30, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Brett Porter wrote: My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience. I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits to save the moderators some time. Cheers, Brett On 5/1/06, James M

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-30 Thread Brett Porter
My bad - fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience. I have also subscribed all committers to the 'allow' list for commits to save the moderators some time. Cheers, Brett On 5/1/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Same here. -- James Mitchell On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Wendy Smoak wr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-30 Thread James Mitchell
Same here. -- James Mitchell On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 4/30/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not long after this, the moderation emails came in. For issues@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received a couple of moderation emails for issues, (and I see someo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-30 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/30/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not long after this, the moderation emails came in. For issues@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I received a couple of moderation emails for issues, (and I see someone already let them through,) but my commit message from yesterday bounced with: Hi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-30 Thread James Mitchell
Not long after this, the moderation emails came in. -- James Mitchell On Apr 29, 2006, at 9:46 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 4/29/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's because this was *not* a vote. It was a proposal. The +1's, +0s, etc. do not count as votes but as expression

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-29 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/29/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's because this was *not* a vote. It was a proposal. The +1's, +0s, etc. do not count as votes but as expressions of agreement or otherwise. That there were no -1 or -0 comments indicates that there was general concensus to go ahead. In g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-29 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/29/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Feel free to add me as moderator for all lists, I'm already one for user and dev. Thanks. And thanks to Brett Porter for what must have been the fastest response on an INFRA ticket in the history of the ASF! The lists are done: http://

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-29 Thread James Mitchell
Feel free to add me as moderator for all lists, I'm already one for user and dev. If these lists can be done by JavaOne that would be great, otherwise I'm afraid the Continuum server will begin dumping msgs to dev, which is sure to elicit gripes from the people who don't know what a mail

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-29 Thread Martin Cooper
On 4/29/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The proposal to establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] resulted in 10 +1 votes (four from PMC members: James, Greg, Craig, Wendy) 2 +0 votes (Don and Ted) The proposal to unsubscribe commits@ from dev@ resulted in 11 +1 votes (five from PMC m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-29 Thread Wendy Smoak
The proposal to establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] resulted in 10 +1 votes (four from PMC members: James, Greg, Craig, Wendy) 2 +0 votes (Don and Ted) The proposal to unsubscribe commits@ from dev@ resulted in 11 +1 votes (five from PMC members James, Greg, Craig, Ted, Wendy) 1 +0 vote (Do

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-27 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Actually, you probably still want a jira@ or notifications@ list - only because those watches don't notify you of every change. They only let you know when an issue is added or removed from the list (opened or resolved), but not when it is commented on. I think. I asked Scott @ Atlassian about

RE: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-27 Thread Josep Ferrer Boix
+1 -Mensaje original- De: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: dimecres, 26 / abril / 2006 03:45 Para: Struts Developers List Asunto: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate presenting the li

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Brett Porter
On 4/27/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, 'notifications@' is something I'd like to see for Continuum. > :) With that addition, we'd have the same setup that Maven does: > http://maven.apache.org/mail-lists.html For the record, I think this is working great for us. One of the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Ed Griebel
+1 to both ideas On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate > presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and > RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: > > * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and dire

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Don Brown
Craig McClanahan wrote: On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direc

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Rainer Hermanns
+1 from me cheers, Rainer > +1 > > /Ian > > Rene Gielen wrote: >> +1 ! >> >> Wendy Smoak schrieb: >> >>> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate >>> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and >>> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: >>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/26/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am +0 for creating [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd prefer that we subscribe JIRA, Moin > Moin, and Confluence to commits@, and keep all the automatic mail in > one place. If it helps to rename commits@ to notifications@ or alerts@ > or logs@, then that w

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Ian Roughley
+1 /Ian Rene Gielen wrote: +1 ! Wendy Smoak schrieb: To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direct JIRA emails t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-26 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/26/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will, however, point out that it breaks the mantra we so often repeat > about all changes being visible on the dev@ list. It also allows for > committers - and, more importantly, PMC members - to opt out of seeing what > goes on throughout th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Rene Gielen
+1 ! Wendy Smoak schrieb: > To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate > presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and > RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: > > * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direct JIRA emails to it > > * unsubscribe

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 4/25/06, Patrick Lightbody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +1 OK, now tell us how you *really* feel :-). Craig

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Martin Cooper
On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To make it easier to filter and sort messages, I'm not sure what is hard about filtering and sorting based on "to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and "from jira.a.o" exactly. My own filters are working just fine right now... and to facilitate > presenti

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Patrick Lightbody
+1 - Posted via Jive Forums http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=27726&messageID=54250#54250 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EM

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate > presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and > RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: > > * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direct JIRA emails to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Don Brown
+0 because I'd argue you don't need an [EMAIL PROTECTED] since anyone can "watch" ticket or project in JIRA they want. Webwork had all messages automatically sent to webwork developers, but again, if you wanted to be notified, just tell jira to watch a project for you. But a separate issues@

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Greg Reddin
+1 On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direct JIRA emails to it

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread James Mitchell
+1 -- James Mitchell On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:44 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and dire