Re: Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-24 Thread Marcus Breese
But what about when the V directly communicates with the C? This all started with the cancel tag. It is very much a struts specific tag that tells the controller that the action should be cancelled. So, in this case, the taglib is required by the controller. Otherwise, a different mechanism wil

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-24 Thread Ted Husted
> Oh well, I guess I'll look elsewhere for a framework. If you can only use a framework that only bundles everything into one monothlitic distribution, then yes you should. We tried that, and it is clearly not working. If monolithic is the only way we could do things in the future, then I would

Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-24 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Don Brown wrote: Please, someone fork the taglibs! :) By forking taglibs to a separate jar after some release, seems like a win win. Chains is the direction, that works for it becuase it tells comunity the focus is on C of MVC. Taglibs you can get from display tag, struts memnu, etc. .V -

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-24 Thread Edgar P Dollin
> Personally, I don't plan to write a set of custom tags for > Struts 2.0. I would expect Struts 2.0 to be written in such a > way that custom tags (or Velocity tools) are not needed. But > if they were needed, and someone wrote a set that was popular > within our community, then I would consid

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-24 Thread Ted Husted
. A separate jar is no biggie, a separate distro is. > > > Edgar > > > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Bubna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:23 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
Thanks. A separate jar is no biggie, a separate distro is. Edgar -Original Message- From: Nathan Bubna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:23 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing Edgar P

Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Michael Rasmussen
From: Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:23:14 -0700 Edga

Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Nathan Bubna
Edgar P Dollin said: ... > As to your prior point, I will explain why a goal of being able to swap the > view and controller is of a lower priority to me than having an integrated > set of tags with the controller. ... i could be totally off on this, but as i read your posts, i keep getting the im

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
Thanks. As to your prior point, I will explain why a goal of being able to swap the view and controller is of a lower priority to me than having an integrated set of tags with the controller. Work gets planned and paid for by project. A typical project would be to web enable or web service ena

Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Marcus Breese
So, again, what if the cancel button (the patch that started this whole thread) was patched to allow the proposed behavior, but didn't require javascript? Meaning, it used javascript if possible, and if the browser didn't use it provided the old/default method? The javascript in question is cross

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
I understand your point, although I don't know why you think it is important. I guess I just disagree. Sorry to have made the posting. Edgar -Original Message- From: Michael Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: P

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
> Speak for yourself, I use Struts-EL and JSTL quite happily. One day I > would like to generate XML for the "view" and use XSLT to transform it > into HTML to which a CSS is applied, but I don't yet know how. There are already solutions for this although this seems like a problem waiting to happ

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
the support would go up as well. Edgar -Original Message- From: Don Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:25 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing Please, someone fork the taglibs! :) I

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
So you would have to view be disconnected, and therefore when changes occur in the business objects have only testing and a human mind connect the two ? Considering the poor shape of open source view level testing tools this argument seems to be resting on shaky grounds. Edgar -Original

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
> This contradicts point 1. If using JSTL tags is a waste of time, so is > using Struts tags. Absolutely not. There is no logic in the view layer of the struts tags. JSTL assumes you have to put the object in the scope, know something about it in order to traverse it etc. > If you want your s

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Wendy Smoak
> From: Edgar P Dollin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2) JSTL is a waste of time. The reason I say this, not counting the > non-java people, is if you can write x number of lines of > useful code per > hour, with jstl that is reduced by a factor greater than 1 due to type > checking, refactoring su

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread David Graham
--- Edgar P Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know I will get ignored or flamed on this, but here I go. My > apologies in > advance if I offend anyone. > > Before I start, I have made more than a couple of attempts at > contributing > code, all of which have been ignored or pushed off to irre

Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Don Brown
Please, someone fork the taglibs! :) I don't understand with all the strong feelings on taglibs why someone doesn't step up and fork them. I'd have to ask the other struts.sf.net admins, but I'd be willing to bet the fork could be hosted by sourceforge at the struts.sf.net site. I know "fork

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread Edgar P Dollin
I know I will get ignored or flamed on this, but here I go. My apologies in advance if I offend anyone. Before I start, I have made more than a couple of attempts at contributing code, all of which have been ignored or pushed off to irrelevant projects. I do wish this philosophy would get rethou