[tiles2] Tiles "controllers" (WAS: Re: [tiles2] Some words about proposed changes)

2006-10-06 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Greg Reddin ha scritto: Here's what I envision for the controller: I don't think it would really be used to change the destination of the response. I don't see the controller as being analogous to a Struts action even though it could be used in that way. If I wanted the controller to be used

[tiles2] Separate attribute handling from

2006-10-06 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Re-Re-Hi again I know I am bugging you again but I have another idea. Personally I don't like using the same tag to define attributes in a layout page and to insert templates/definitions/strings: I think the concept of attribute is separated from the rest (it is somewhat like specified a "setX

Re: [tiles2] Tiles "controllers" (WAS: Re: [tiles2] Some words about proposed changes)

2006-10-06 Thread Lee Sing Chyun
hi, my 2-cents: TilesProvider? Regards, Sing Chyun --- Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Reddin ha scritto: > > Here's what I envision for the controller: I don't think it would > > really be used to change the destination of the response. I don't see > > the controller as

Re: [tiles2] GetTag vs. InsertTag

2006-10-06 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Greg Reddin ha scritto: On Oct 5, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: On Oct 5, 2006, at 2:46 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: But don't forget about the tag as well. It's semantics are quite different from . How would it be affected i

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
I'm wondering if maybe we should roll this tomorrow afternoon instead. They might be working on the Internet connection on Monday, and my tutorial is Monday afternoon. It would be nice to have it before I leave, so that I can put it on the tutorial CDs, and cover the new S1 compatability bridge cl

Re: Placement of Application Logic

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
The JavaBean design pattern is as good as any. Encapsulate the functionality as an object, where attributes like the filename are represented by get and set methods. Instantiate the object, set the filename property, and call an execute or process method to fetch whatever it is you are after. If i

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm wondering if maybe we should roll this tomorrow afternoon instead. They might be working on the Internet connection on Monday, and my tutorial is Monday afternoon. It would be nice to have it before I leave, so that I can put it on the tutori

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
I don't have karma to XWork, so it's not something I could tag myself. -Ted. On 10/6/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering if maybe we should roll this tomorrow afternoon instead. > They might be working on the Internet con

[S2] Articles, Projects, Companies, and such

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
I moved the pages regarding articles, projects, and companies to the Struts 2 Wiki space, so that they could be maintained as a community resource. Right now, we're restricting editing access to the Struts 2 WW space to individuals with a CLA on file with the foundation. In this way, we don't hav

Re: [S2] Articles, Projects, Companies, and such

2006-10-06 Thread Matt Raible
I'd like to add AppFuse and SourceBeat to the applications/sites page, as well as Virtuas to the companies page. How do I go about doing that? Does my CLA for Roller count? Thanks, Matt On 10/6/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I moved the pages regarding articles, projects, and comp

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Rainer Hermanns
Ted, I am planning a beta-1 release of xwork 2.0 for tomorrow. This will be tagged and build with a fixed version number. Would this fit into your timeframe? Rainer > I don't have karma to XWork, so it's not something I could tag myself. > > -Ted. > > On 10/6/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [S2] Articles, Projects, Companies, and such

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, it would, but the Projects is in the S2WIKI space, which is open to anyone who opens a free CWIKI account. * http://cwiki.apache.org/S2WIKI/home.html -Ted. On 10/6/06, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to add AppFuse and SourceBeat to the applications/sites page, as well as

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Yes. Though, does XWork the release process allow for updating the bits from beta to stable or GA? The reason I ask is that our 2.0.1 release will be tied to whatever version moniker that XWork uses. If tomorrow's XWork release is tagged as "beta", and that cannot change for that set of bits, th

Re: [tiles2] Tiles "controllers" (WAS: Re: [tiles2] Some words about proposed changes)

2006-10-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 10/6/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: > Here's what I envision for the controller: I don't think it would > really be used to change the destination of the response. I don't see > the controller as being analogous to a Struts action even though it > cou

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
XWork does use the alpha, beta, stable tagging of releases, however, the release process is lightweight and many people have commit access. I do, and you just need to ask Patrick to get access yourself. To be honest, this XWork release shouldn't go 2.0.0 final, because the documentation for X

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Saturday afternoon is fine with me, however, I'll be at ApacheCon already, but I'm sure there will be internet access somewhere. My only concern, as Wendy said, is to have XWork rolled first. Don Ted Husted wrote: I'm wondering if maybe we should roll this tomorrow afternoon instead. They mi

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Wendy Smoak
ve different levels of 'quality' so to speak. If you have an experimental plugin, that's no reason to downgrade the core. Speaking of that Tiles 2 dependency, we need to deploy a snapshot with a fixed version number (such as 20061006-SNAPSHOT) so that future snapshots of Ti

Re: [tiles2] Tiles "controllers" (WAS: Re: [tiles2] Some words about proposed changes)

2006-10-06 Thread Greg Reddin
On Oct 6, 2006, at 2:27 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: Here's what I envision for the controller: I don't think it would really be used to change the destination of the response. I don't see the controller as being analogous to a Struts action even though it could b

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
the core. Speaking of that Tiles 2 dependency, we need to deploy a snapshot with a fixed version number (such as 20061006-SNAPSHOT) so that future snapshots of Tiles 2 don't break Struts 2.0.1 for Maven users. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [tiles2] GetTag vs. InsertTag

2006-10-06 Thread Greg Reddin
On Oct 6, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Hmm, I can't find any of my examples of using getAsString but I thought I'd done it like this: name="tilte"/> or something like that. I would be perfectly fine if I could use in that way if getAsString goes away. So I guess my answer t

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
ncy on a beta. But, that's just me. It's a majority vote. Speaking of that Tiles 2 dependency, we need to deploy a snapshot with a fixed version number (such as 20061006-SNAPSHOT) so that future snapshots of Tiles 2 don't break Struts 2.0.1 for Maven users. I&

Re: [tiles2] Separate attribute handling from

2006-10-06 Thread Greg Reddin
Maybe we need and to handle the 2 types specifically instead of one to handle them generically. I don't know. Having used Tiles for a while, I'm used to the way things are. It doesn't bother me to use the same overloaded tag in two different ways. I'm not sure if it's confusing to t

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
base that integrates with a lot of different libraries and environments. Don Personally, I'm not going to vote GA on a set of bits with a dependency on a beta. But, that's just me. It's a majority vote. Speaking of that Tiles 2 dependency, we need to deploy a snapshot with a fix

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
on have different levels of 'quality' so to speak. If you > have an experimental plugin, that's no reason to downgrade the core. > > Speaking of that Tiles 2 dependency, we need to deploy a snapshot with > a fixed version number (such as 20061006-SNAPSHOT) so that future &

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymore. The code has been split into different "plugins". A plugin is a specific extension to the Struts framework that, by definition, isn't "core". This allows us to more easily manage a codebase that integrat

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Saturday afternoon is fine with me, however, I'll be at ApacheCon already, but I'm sure there will be internet access somewhere. My only concern, as Wendy said, is to have XWork rolled first. Tell you what. Check out the Internet access, and if

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Sounds good. I'll be online on MSN, AIM, GTalk, etc. Also, you can call my cell. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Saturday afternoon is fine with me, however, I'll be at ApacheCon already, but I'm sure there will be internet access somewhere. My only c

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Agreed. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymore. The code has been split into different "plugins". A plugin is a specific extension to the Struts framework that, by definition, isn't "core". This allows us to more easil

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
perimental plugin, that's no reason to downgrade the core. > > Speaking of that Tiles 2 dependency, we need to deploy a snapshot with > a fixed version number (such as 20061006-SNAPSHOT) so that future > snapshots of Tiles 2 don't break Struts 2.0.1 for Mav

Re: [tiles2] Tiles "controllers" (WAS: Re: [tiles2] Some words about proposed changes)

2006-10-06 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 10/6/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: > Here's what I envision for the controller: I don't think it would > really be used to change the destination of the response. I don't see > the controller as being analogous to a Struts action even though it > co

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
or >> > doesn't seem to be working out all that well. Different parts of the >> > distribution have different levels of 'quality' so to speak. If you >> > have an experimental plugin, that's no reason to downgrade the core. >> > >> > S

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
y on a snapshot of Tiles 2, so by that >> > logic you're stuck at Alpha for Struts 2.0.1. >> > >> > This policy of grading a release at the lowest common denominator >> > doesn't seem to be working out all that well. Different parts of the >>

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Right now, I count 12 Struts 2 JARs, plus struts2-all, 9 of which are plugins. For a quality vote, I'd expect we could just list them all and let people break out JARs in a different grade s. For example, +1 GA struts2-core struts2-toolbox struts2-config-browser-plugin struts2-sitemesh-plugin st

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Works for me. Don Ted Husted wrote: Right now, I count 12 Struts 2 JARs, plus struts2-all, 9 of which are plugins. For a quality vote, I'd expect we could just list them all and let people break out JARs in a different grade s. For example, +1 GA struts2-core struts2-toolbox struts2-config-br

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Has anyone volunteered to work on the XWork docs? The XW2 docs aren't any better or worse than the XW 1.1 docs, and I believe that release series was getting the "ready for prime time" stamp. Is anyone besides Struts 2.0.x trying to use XWork in production? Is there even an XWork forum any more?

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release - Maven issues

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymore. The code has been split into different "plugins". A plugin is a specific extension to the Struts framework that, by definition, isn't "core". This allows us to more easily manage a codebase that integrat

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release - Maven issues

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Try this: mvn clean install site -P xwork,plugins,apps,all,itest,pre-assembly You don't need core, and I put the toolbox module in the default profile (there was no toolbox profile). Don Ted Husted wrote: On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To clarify, there is no "extras" anymo

Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Hmm...could Struts 2.0.1 go GA...I hadn't really thought about it before. For me, the main thing that GA does is mean that you can't screw with the API anymore in that branch. Therefore, if we needed to do anything significant, we'd have to do it in a new branch, and put the old API through t

Re: Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Well, we wouldn't want to *break* the API in the same release series, since that's what a release series is suppose to mean. If we want to break the API, we should go onto the next series (2.1 or 3.0). Though, if we were to break the API, we'd also break WW2 compatibility, and that's suppose to be

Re: Could Struts 2.0.1 go GA? (was Re: Struts 2.0.1 release)

2006-10-06 Thread Don Brown
Yeah, sorry, that is what I was trying to say - I'm fine with freezing the API here, pushing future improvements into 2.1 or 3.0. I think we are 100% on the same page here :) Let's get this puppy rolled! Don Ted Husted wrote: Well, we wouldn't want to *break* the API in the same release ser

Re: Struts 2.0.1 release - Maven issues

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Husted
Yep, that does it! -Ted. On 10/6/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try this: mvn clean install site -P xwork,plugins,apps,all,itest,pre-assembly You don't need core, and I put the toolbox module in the default profile (there was no toolbox profile). Don Ted Husted wrote: > On 10/6/06,