[S2] Struts 2.1.0-SNAPSHOT

2007-10-04 Thread Ted Husted
If anyone is interested in previewing a *snapshot* build of Struts 2.1.0 for testing purposes, a library distribution with dependencies is available here: * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/nightlies/2.x/struts-2.1.0-SNAPSHOT-lib.zip * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/nightlies/2.x

Re: [struts-dev] [ANN] Three Struts Tutorials or Presentations at ApacheCon US 2007 Atlanta GA

2007-10-04 Thread Don Brown
Yeah, we'll do a BOF, although they are usually pretty low key, I'm up for kicking it up a notch, especially if there is free beer :) Don On 10/4/07, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/3/07, Dale Newfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ted Husted wrote: > > > ApacheCon US 2007 Atlanta

Re: struts/xwork patch submission. Please Review.

2007-10-04 Thread Don Brown
The ticket has been fixed. Basically, the patch provided would have broken another feature, so I fixed it in such a way that everyone wins. I didn't put it in 2.1 as I'd like to see it get more testing before going in a stable branch, but if someone else reviews the change and is ok with it, feel

Re: [ANN] Three Struts Tutorials or Presentations at ApacheCon US 2007 Atlanta GA

2007-10-04 Thread Matt Raible
I'll contact the conference organizers to see what's the best night (thurs or fri) and then proceed to contact the hotel (or a nearby bar?) to get some cost estimates. From there, I'll start contacting potential sponsors. Sound good? If anyone wants to assist, let me know. Matt On 10/4/07, Don

Re: [ANN] Three Struts Tutorials or Presentations at ApacheCon US 2007 Atlanta GA

2007-10-04 Thread Don Brown
So this will be more of a Struts party then? I can see if I can get Atlassian to put some money/beer in the pot. Don On 10/5/07, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll contact the conference organizers to see what's the best night > (thurs or fri) and then proceed to contact the hotel (or

Re: [ANN] Three Struts Tutorials or Presentations at ApacheCon US 2007 Atlanta GA

2007-10-04 Thread Matt Raible
I've always called them BOFs, and they generally operate like a BOF - except attendees enjoy themselves because there's beer and more people generally show up. ;-) Matt On 10/4/07, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So this will be more of a Struts party then? I can see if I can get > Atlass

[s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-04 Thread Don Brown
The discussion around WW-2149 [1] has been interesting as it exposed quite different philosophies with regards to Struts 2 tags. One thought is Struts 2 should have lots of tags in its core as they are used by lots of people. On the other hand, other folks (me) think Struts 2 should keep core ver

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-04 Thread Matt Raible
I would be hesitant about doing this - mostly because no one else does it. It might work well for developers, but does it really enhance the users' experience? Matt On 10/4/07, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The discussion around WW-2149 [1] has been interesting as it exposed > quite diff

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-04 Thread Chris Pratt
I absolutely agree, I am actually in the process of writing a tag library that is based on the old struts 1 tags but supports OGNL and JSP EL (without any of the overhead of FreeMarker). It was a bit daunting trying to figure out some of the in's-n-out's to get access to the guts of Struts 2/XWork

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-04 Thread Chris Pratt
On 10/4/07, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would be hesitant about doing this - mostly because no one else does > it. It might work well for developers, but does it really enhance the > users' experience? > > Matt > I don't think this is a question of user experience, but developer choi

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-04 Thread Nils-Helge Garli Hegvik
I would very much like to be able to extend the tags in a plugin. But how do we keep the tld file(s) in sync? If there's going to be several tag projects, there's going to be confusion if they all define their own attributes and tags. There should at least be a minimum requirement of common tags an

Re: [s2] Should tags be their own plugin?

2007-10-04 Thread Don Brown
Along those lines, I'd like to see a plugin that: 1. Replaces OGNL with the Unified EL 2. Provides tags that use deferred EL expressions Then, an application could completely drop OGNL and have native, JSP tags that tools understand. No more confusion over what EL you are using and no more conf