On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Julian Foad julianf...@btopenworld.com wrote:
Hi Paul. Thanks for indulging my enquiries.
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
Overriding is done by setting a new value for the inheritable
property svn:i:ignore, like this:
/subversion
Hi, Johan,
Von: Johan Corveleyn [mailto:jcor...@gmail.com]
Perhaps this issue can be deferred if the API would allow you to get / cache
all the inheritable props, up to the repository root (since they are always
readable anyway, regardless of authz). Not only up to the nearest path-wise
Hi Paul. Thanks for indulging my enquiries.
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
Overriding is done by setting a new value for the inheritable
property svn:i:ignore, like this:
/subversion svn:i:ignore = *.o *.obj *.a *.lib ...
/subversion/trunk/tests svn:i:ignore
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Julian Foad julianf...@btopenworld.com wrote:
Hi Paul. Thanks for indulging my enquiries.
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
Overriding is done by setting a new value for the inheritable
property svn:i:ignore, like this:
/subversion
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Julian Foad julianf...@btopenworld.com wrote:
Hi Paul. Thanks for indulging my enquiries.
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
Overriding is done by setting a new value for the inheritable
property svn:i:ignore, like this:
/subversion
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Julian Foad julianf...@btopenworld.com
wrote:
Hi Paul. Thanks for indulging my enquiries.
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
Overriding is done by setting a new value for the
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
The ability to see the inherited value and then merge in a child-defined
value (adding/subtracting/overriding semantic sub-elements within the
property value) is essential if we're going to implement these features
using properties with semantics like
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Julian Foad
julianf...@btopenworld.com wrote:
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
The ability to see the inherited value and then merge in a child-defined
value (adding/subtracting/overriding semantic sub-elements within the
property value) is essential if
On 01/27/2012 04:38 PM, Paul Burba wrote:
Now let's say we implement inheritable properties as I described in
the wiki and want to use an inheritable property to supplement the
existing mechanisms for svn:ignores/global-ignores. Isn't that as
simple as this?
4) We add a new reserved
Branko Čibej wrote:
On 27.01.2012 12:53, Julian Foad wrote:
Branko Čibej wrote:
On 27.01.2012 11:50, Julian Foad wrote:
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores
and auto-props using the proposed inheritable properties system. The
ability to see the
On 30.01.2012 17:05, Julian Foad wrote:
No. The way I read the proposed 'server-dictated config' scheme, it didn't
include a way to configure different values for 'global-ignores' to apply to
different
directories inside the WC, only for transmitting a single value of
'global-ignores'
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Foad
julianf...@btopenworld.com wrote:
Branko Čibej wrote:
On 27.01.2012 12:53, Julian Foad wrote:
Branko Čibej wrote:
On 27.01.2012 11:50, Julian Foad wrote:
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores
and auto-props
Paul Burba wrote:
Julian Foad wrote:
[...] The way I read the proposed 'server-dictated config' scheme,
it didn't include a way to configure different values for
'global-ignores' to apply to different directories inside the WC,
[...]
That is incorrect, the server dictated configuration
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for working on server dictated config and inherited
properties. We use Subversion as the core of a Document CMS (with focus on
structured XML authoring). Some of the components we develop are available as
open-source: http://repossearch.com/
We would be absolutely
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 21:16, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:23, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17,
Paul Burba wrote:
See http://wiki.apache.org/subversion/InheritedProperties for what I'm
envisioning.
I've added some notes to the Wiki page.
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores and
auto-props using the proposed inheritable properties system. The ability to
On 27.01.2012 11:50, Julian Foad wrote:
Paul Burba wrote:
See http://wiki.apache.org/subversion/InheritedProperties for what I'm
envisioning.
I've added some notes to the Wiki page.
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores and
auto-props using the proposed
Branko Čibej wrote:
On 27.01.2012 11:50, Julian Foad wrote:
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores
and auto-props using the proposed inheritable properties system. The ability
to
see the inherited value and then merge in a child-defined value
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Daniel Shahaf danie...@elego.de wrote:
Paul Burba wrote on Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:55:48 -0500:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
I must have blanked out through the sequence of emails that got us from
let's solve
On 27.01.2012 12:53, Julian Foad wrote:
Branko Čibej wrote:
On 27.01.2012 11:50, Julian Foad wrote:
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores
and auto-props using the proposed inheritable properties system. The
ability to
see the inherited value and then
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Julian Foad julianf...@btopenworld.com wrote:
Paul Burba wrote:
See http://wiki.apache.org/subversion/InheritedProperties for what I'm
envisioning.
I've added some notes to the Wiki page.
We need to see how we'd implement a reasonable system of svn:ignores
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
On 01/21/2012 09:05 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:23, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I've been thinking about this. As you say, the solution for our
own inheritable properties is
Paul Burba wrote on Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:55:48 -0500:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
I must have blanked out through the sequence of emails that got us from
let's solve a couple of oft-reported user issues regarding auto-props and
ignores
On 01/21/2012 09:05 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:23, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I've been thinking about this. As you say, the solution for our
own inheritable properties is simple. Since Subversion already
reserves properties beginning with svn: for its
On 01/21/2012 09:05 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:23, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I've been thinking about this. As you say, the solution for our
own inheritable properties is simple. Since Subversion already
reserves properties beginning with svn: for its
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:23, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote:
On 17.01.2012 02:28, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
... and something like inheritable props my fit in that model, though
I'd had to make the feature dependency tree another level deeper.
Before you jump on the inheritable
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:23, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue,
On 17.01.2012 02:28, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
... and something like inheritable props my fit in that model, though
I'd had to make the feature dependency tree another level deeper.
Before you jump on the inheritable properties bandwagon, consider that
server-mandated configuration is not
On 17.01.2012 20:54, Johan Corveleyn wrote:
But, but ... if you're able to checkout ^/foo/bar/baz, then you
already know that foo and foo/bar
In the ACL world, there is a difference between lookup and read
access. In your example, the user has permission to lookup ^/foo and
^/foo/bar, but not to
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Hyrum K Wright
hyrum.wri...@wandisco.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
...
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
We could chose to make things simple and follow the svn:mergeinfo
model of inheritance:
a) If a path has an explicit given property then it doesn't inherit
that property; the explicit value is the complete value.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Hyrum K Wright
hyrum.wri...@wandisco.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
...
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
hyrum.wri...@wandisco.com wrote:
As I recall, there were a few reasons why inherited
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Hyrum K Wright
hyrum.wri...@wandisco.com wrote:
[...]
Another thing to note is that there have been some rumblings about
authz improvements, along the lines of an additional permission to
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
We could chose to make things simple and follow the svn:mergeinfo
model
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Hyrum K Wright
hyrum.wri...@wandisco.com wrote:
Hi All,
I haven't been ignoring this thread, I've been laid low with illness
the last couple of weeks...
...Anyhow, when I finally got back to this I see that a lot of folks
are itching for an inheritable property solution. So for now I'll
defer on the open questions re the proposal in the
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 00:03, Mark Phippard markp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 02:58, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike Pilato and I
On 01/06/2012 07:16 AM, Johan Corveleyn wrote:
Come to think of it: using properties has the nice advantage that
these configurations come along when a project is branched or
tagged. Which is what most users would expect, I guess.
That's a great point, and echoes a problem which currently
Johan Corveleyn wrote on Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 13:16:06 +0100:
Come to think of it: using properties has the nice advantage that
these configurations come along when a project is branched or
tagged. Which is what most users would expect, I guess.
If using some other server-side configuration
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Daniel Shahaf danie...@elego.de wrote:
Johan Corveleyn wrote on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 01:40:40 +0100:
Another question: is the server-dictated config still extendable by
the client? I.e.: if the server already defines a global svn:ignore
value, can the user still
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 02:58, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this
Ivan Zhakov wrote on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 23:42:49 +0400:
2. ignores
We can add svn:global-ignores property to define global (recursive) ignore
mask.
Glossing over details. Is it a revprop? What happens if the wc root is
not the branch root?
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Stefan Küng tortoise...@gmail.com wrote:
The approach TortoiseSVN and some other clients take does work pretty
nicely but I also think they reveal the short comings in using
properties. For convenience, TortoiseSVN does not force you to set
these properties on
On 03.01.2012 23:58, Paul Burba wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this wiki was initially based on Hyrum's thoughts on
the subject in
2012/1/6 Mark Phippard markp...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
http://wiki.apache.org/subversion/ServerDictatedConfiguration
I think most of use-cases can be solved by existing mechanism without
inventing something new:
1. auto-props
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Konstantin Kolinko
knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote:
The approach TortoiseSVN and some other clients take does work pretty
nicely but I also think they reveal the short comings in using
properties. For convenience, TortoiseSVN does not force you to set
these
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Mark Phippard markp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Konstantin Kolinko
knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote:
The approach TortoiseSVN and some other clients take does work pretty
nicely but I also think they reveal the short comings in using
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 00:03, Mark Phippard markp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ivan Zhakov i...@visualsvn.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 02:58, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 00:10, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
Ivan Zhakov wrote on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 23:42:49 +0400:
2. ignores
We can add svn:global-ignores property to define global (recursive) ignore
mask.
Glossing over details. Is it a revprop? What happens if the wc
Paul Burba wrote on Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 13:30:41 -0500:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 17:58, Paul Burba wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Stefan Sperling s...@elego.de wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 05:58:16PM -0500, Paul Burba wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this wiki was
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 17:58, Paul Burba wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and
Johan Corveleyn wrote on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 01:40:40 +0100:
Another question: is the server-dictated config still extendable by
the client? I.e.: if the server already defines a global svn:ignore
value, can the user still append another pattern? Or for autoprops:
maybe I want to have my own
Paul Burba wrote on Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 14:44:02 -0500:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Stefan Sperling s...@elego.de wrote:
If the option name is valid but the option value is not, will the server
still send the configuration option to the client? Will it send some default
value instead
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this wiki was initially based on Hyrum's thoughts on
the subject in
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 17:58, Paul Burba wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this wiki was initially based on Hyrum's thoughts on
the subject in
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 05:58:16PM -0500, Paul Burba wrote:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this wiki was initially based on Hyrum's thoughts on
the subject in
2012/1/4 Paul Burba ptbu...@gmail.com:
Mike Pilato and I have been kicking around some ideas on server
dictated configuration recently and have put our thoughts into a wiki
(full disclosure: this wiki was initially based on Hyrum's thoughts on
the subject in
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