Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Lieven Govaerts
Ivan, On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Lieven Govaerts wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Philip Martin > [...] > >> Also, there might well be a windows-kerberos triple trusted >> domain .. setup somewhere where svn+neon works and

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread kmradke
> From: Philip Martin > kmra...@rockwellcollins.com writes: > > > *one* of my servers currently logs around 10GB per week with neon > > only access. I'd probably have to change from rotating logs > > weekly to rotating logs hourly! Disabling logging is not an option. > > It depends what sort o

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Philip Martin
kmra...@rockwellcollins.com writes: > *one* of my servers currently logs around 10GB per week with neon > only access. I'd probably have to change from rotating logs > weekly to rotating logs hourly! Disabling logging is not an option. It depends what sort of access patterns you see. The probl

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Stefan Küng
On 13.11.2012 21:03, Mark Phippard wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Mark Phippard wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Stefan Küng wrote: On 13.11.2012 14:58, Mark Phippard wrote: We did some testing in our lab, and the KeepAlive settings help a lot here. Without any KeepAlive, t

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Stefan Küng
On 13.11.2012 20:48, Mark Phippard wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Stefan Küng wrote: On 13.11.2012 14:58, Mark Phippard wrote: We did some testing in our lab, and the KeepAlive settings help a lot here. Without any KeepAlive, then obviously every Serf request on every connection nee

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Mark Phippard
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Mark Phippard wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Stefan Küng wrote: >> On 13.11.2012 14:58, Mark Phippard wrote: >> >>> We did some testing in our lab, and the KeepAlive settings help a lot >>> here. Without any KeepAlive, then obviously every Serf request

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Mark Phippard
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Stefan Küng wrote: > On 13.11.2012 14:58, Mark Phippard wrote: > >> We did some testing in our lab, and the KeepAlive settings help a lot >> here. Without any KeepAlive, then obviously every Serf request on >> every connection needed to be re-authenticated. With

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Stefan Küng
On 13.11.2012 14:58, Mark Phippard wrote: We did some testing in our lab, and the KeepAlive settings help a lot here. Without any KeepAlive, then obviously every Serf request on every connection needed to be re-authenticated. With KeepAlive on and the connection limit set high enough then it w

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread kmradke
> Greg Stein writes: > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philip Martin > > wrote: > >>... > >> Another concern is the increased server logging due to the large > >> increase in the number of requests. A 1.8 server does better than older > >> servers, about 50% fewer requests on checkout, bu

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Mark Phippard
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philip Martin wrote: > We at WANdisco had a discussion about serf in 1.8 today; I'd said I > summarise to the list. > > One concern is the impact on server performance, particularly older > servers, of serf as the only client. Issue > http:

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Ivan Zhakov
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Philip Martin wrote: > Justin Erenkrantz writes: > >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Lieven Govaerts wrote: >> >>> Is that a fix that we can get in apache 2.2? Justin? >>> >> >> I don't readily recall the issue in mod_deflate. Is it already resolved in >> the

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Philip Martin
Justin Erenkrantz writes: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Lieven Govaerts wrote: > >> Is that a fix that we can get in apache 2.2? Justin? >> > > I don't readily recall the issue in mod_deflate. Is it already resolved in > the 2.4 series? r1103315 You wrote about it: http://mail-archives.

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Lieven Govaerts wrote: > Is that a fix that we can get in apache 2.2? Justin? > I don't readily recall the issue in mod_deflate. Is it already resolved in the 2.4 series? > work. These concern maybe only 1% of the users, but we should have a > plan to support

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-13 Thread Ivan Zhakov
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Lieven Govaerts wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Philip Martin [...] > Also, there might well be a windows-kerberos triple trusted > domain .. setup somewhere where svn+neon works and svn+serf doesn't > work. What is "windows-kerberos tripli trusted dom

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Lieven Govaerts
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Philip Martin wrote: > We at WANdisco had a discussion about serf in 1.8 today; I'd said I > summarise to the list. > > One concern is the impact on server performance, particularly older > servers, of serf as the only c

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 00:02:07 -0500: > On Nov 12, 2012 10:50 PM, "Daniel Shahaf" wrote: > > > > Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 21:48:23 -0500: > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Philip Martin > > > wrote: > > > > Daniel Shahaf writes: > > > > > > > >> Greg Stein

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
On Nov 12, 2012 10:50 PM, "Daniel Shahaf" wrote: > > Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 21:48:23 -0500: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Philip Martin > > wrote: > > > Daniel Shahaf writes: > > > > > >> Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 19:01:25 -0500: > > >>> > > >>> In October

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 21:48:23 -0500: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Philip Martin > wrote: > > Daniel Shahaf writes: > > > >> Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 19:01:25 -0500: > >>> > >>> In October, svn.apache.org generated about 900M of logs(*). Is that a > >>> pr

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Philip Martin wrote: > Daniel Shahaf writes: > >> Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 19:01:25 -0500: >>> >>> In October, svn.apache.org generated about 900M of logs(*). Is that a >>> problem? I wouldn't think so. At that rate, a simple 1T drive could >>> hol

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Philip Martin wrote: > I have a checkout of the gcc tree, it has 78,000 files. Now it uses > svn: but if it were to use http: then the serf checkout log would be 4 > orders of magnitude bigger than the neon log. 83 years becomes 1 or 2 > days. > > The neon log is

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Philip Martin
Daniel Shahaf writes: > Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 19:01:25 -0500: >> >> In October, svn.apache.org generated about 900M of logs(*). Is that a >> problem? I wouldn't think so. At that rate, a simple 1T drive could >> hold over 83 years of logs. Are there installations busier than >

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 19:01:25 -0500: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philip Martin > > wrote: > > >... > > > Another concern is the increased server logging due to the large > > > increase in the number of requests

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Philip Martin
Greg Stein writes: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philip Martin > wrote: >>... >> Another concern is the increased server logging due to the large >> increase in the number of requests. A 1.8 server does better than older >> servers, about 50% fewer requests on checkout, but there is still

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Greg Stein wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 19:01:25 -0500: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philip Martin > wrote: > >... > > Another concern is the increased server logging due to the large > > increase in the number of requests. A 1.8 server does better than older > > servers, about 50% fewer r

Re: serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philip Martin wrote: >... > Another concern is the increased server logging due to the large > increase in the number of requests. A 1.8 server does better than older > servers, about 50% fewer requests on checkout, but there is still a big > increase over neon.

serf in 1.8

2012-11-12 Thread Philip Martin
We at WANdisco had a discussion about serf in 1.8 today; I'd said I summarise to the list. One concern is the impact on server performance, particularly older servers, of serf as the only client. Issue http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3980 has some figures. The CPU loa