Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Christoph Dibak
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:20:53PM +1100, Alex Ghitza wrote: However, it is simply not true that it requires you to use the web interface to do anything useful. I have been using Sage extensively for teaching and research for the past two years and I spend 95% of my time in the command-line

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Kris Maglione
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 09:46:40AM +0100, Christoph Dibak wrote: But is there a sort of replacement for maple? Does any less-sucking or open-source software support the maple-worksheet (.mw) format? Don't Maple worksheets, by definition, suck more? At least, that's my impression of anything

Re: [dev] wmii and floating controls

2009-11-20 Thread Kris Maglione
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:30:10AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote: I'll probably cave and just compile 3.9 soon enough but it's so untidy to have to do that every time I install a system and I'm not up to being maintaining packages yet (and they wouldn't take a 'beta' anyway). Is there no way in 3.6

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
suckless calculators: bc, hoc On 11/20/09, Alex Ghitza aghi...@gmail.com wrote: In the end, it depends on what you want to do with your CAS. If you want something very precise, there is good specialised software around (Pari was already mentioned for number theory, GAP is the way to go for

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread pancake
I always find a limitation to use dmenu instead of gtk entry text because you cannot edit the URL in a decent way. markus schnalke wrote: [2009-11-19 18:57] Moritz Wilhelmy c...@wzff.de [...] editing text boxes within an external editor. You took the words right out of my mouth.

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:20:32AM +, Kai Hendry wrote: I use a scary Firefox extension It's all text! to get my text area editable in vim. Perhaps something like double clicking a textarea (I don't care for editing input type=text), would simply launch $EDITOR on it. yes, something

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread pancake
We can also use $EDITOR to edit the URL address. 12:16 pancake (get uri, write in file, launch $EDITOR, set contents of file in clipboard, set uri) A cool thing would be to extrapolate this functionality to also edit cookies and post data. Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread Michael
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 14:15, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote: There is a patch already for this (written by Gottox) which I consider to make mainstream as well for surf integration (apart from vertical items and an overhaul of the Key handling). Hello, Anselm, can you describe why you

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread crap
That's a *great* idea. I don't really like to edit my url with dmenu anyway... liked the GTK box better and I think editing it with vim would be a lot better than GTK boxes. Moritz On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:10:41PM +0100, pancake wrote: We can also use $EDITOR to edit the URL address. 12:16

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread Tadeusz SoĊ›nierz
Methinks editing such a small thing like url with vim is a bit too much. However, idea of editing postdata and cookies sounds really good to me. Regards On 20-11-2009 13:23:00, c...@wzff.de wrote: That's a *great* idea. I don't really like to edit my url with dmenu anyway... liked the GTK box

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/20 Michael hidden.n...@gmail.com: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 14:15, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote: There is a patch already for this (written by Gottox) which I consider to make mainstream as well for surf integration (apart from vertical items and an overhaul of the Key handling).

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread Michael
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 15:47, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote: Aehm I was saying vertical will become mainstream... Sorry, got to read more English. Happy to hear it, thanks.

Re: [dev] [surf] editing textboxes with external command

2009-11-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:41 +0300 Michael hidden.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 15:47, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote: Aehm I was saying vertical will become mainstream... Sorry, got to read more English. Happy to hear it, thanks. I also read the original message as

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread David Tweed
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Kris Maglione maglion...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23:35PM -0600, A.J. Gardner wrote: I'm interested in math and CASs, but my opinions on available software are ill-formed and mostly ignorant. Does anyone else here have an interest in this

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Jukka Ruohonen
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23:35PM -0600, A.J. Gardner wrote: Anyone know of any suckless math software out there in the tubes? As for algebra, the king of the hill is without doubt LAPACK. But since Fortran is nowadays seldom used, few people can tell if it sucks in the sense of suckless (?).

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread David Tweed
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Jukka Ruohonen jruoho...@iki.fi wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23:35PM -0600, A.J. Gardner wrote: Anyone know of any suckless math software out there in the tubes? As for algebra, the king of the hill is without doubt LAPACK. But since Fortran is nowadays

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread David Tweed
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Jukka Ruohonen jruoho...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:53:47PM +, David Tweed wrote: FWIW, my understanding is that the LAPACK library must have an API which conforms with a reference Fortran implementation, but there are various versions

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 11/20/09, Jukka Ruohonen jruoho...@iki.fi wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23:35PM -0600, A.J. Gardner wrote: Anyone know of any suckless math software out there in the tubes? As for algebra, the king of the hill is without doubt LAPACK. But since LAPACK is about floating point

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Jukka Ruohonen
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 02:57:24PM +, David Tweed wrote: I was pointing out more how the simple-minded software metrics would condemn you to around about the level of performance acheived by the reference LAPACK (white bars) in the paper referenced, which to my mind suggests there's a flaw

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread David Tweed
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Jukka Ruohonen jruoho...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 02:57:24PM +, David Tweed wrote: I was pointing out more how the simple-minded software metrics would condemn you to around about the level of performance acheived by the reference LAPACK (white

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Jukka Ruohonen
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:56:07PM +, David Tweed wrote: I think it's just a difference in when we'd use words like terrible. Well, being on a suckless list, I tend to agree with suckless' definitions of terrible. Perhaps all this could be elaborated from a different angle. Most of the

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Kris Maglione
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:53:47PM +, David Tweed wrote: As for the code quality, I can see the code driving certain people on this list mad because it deliberately doesn't compute things in the simplest way and fewest lines in order to do things like acheive close to optimal cache blocking

Re: [dev] wmii9menu shows foo at top left

2009-11-20 Thread Suraj Kurapati
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Kris Maglione wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:29:55PM -0800, Suraj Kurapati wrote: I see a gray foo string inside the first item in wmii9menu Works for me. Also, `hg grep -r tip foo` doesn't show any results. Thanks for fixing this!

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/20 Kris Maglione maglion...@gmail.com: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23:35PM -0600, A.J. Gardner wrote: I'm interested in math and CASs, but my opinions on available software are ill-formed and mostly ignorant. Does anyone else here have an interest in this topic, broadly speaking? If

Re: [dev] a suckless computer algebra system

2009-11-20 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 11/20/09, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote: Why not? I think it should be possible to have very minimalist and specialized CAS', they managed to do that in the 50s and 60s, why not today? ah good old reduce