Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Aditya Goturu
WOW. The compile took 7 mins but there was only 1 (ONE) warning and NO errors after i installed libXmu-devel on my server. The bad news: it doesnt run on an X11 tunnel On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Aditya Goturu wrote: > Argh. Compile failed. But i found out some more

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Aditya Goturu
Argh. Compile failed. But i found out some more interesting things. The BUILD SYSTEM depends on python and DBUS. Also, when the compile finished, it popped up a GUI notification (!), on the machine on which i ssh -Yed into the build server... On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Aditya Goturu

[dev] C, gcc and armv8

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
Hi, Just to raise awareness on this issue: - gcc is now c++98 boot-strapable only. - The last C boostrapable gcc is gcc 4.7.x. - armv8 (64bits, raspberry 3) support is only in lastest gcc (i.e. _not_ in gcc 4.7.x) It means you cannot natively compile gcc on armv8 from a basic C compiler,

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Aditya Goturu
Cargo pulling in libs for servo on a system with just rustc installed: Updating registry `https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index` Updating git repository `https://github.com/servo/rust-layers` Updating git repository `https://github.com/servo/webrender` Updating git

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 01:23:54PM +0200, Sanel Zukan wrote: > Mitt Green writes: > >> but find me portable and usable C UI toolkit > >> without tons of dependencies > > ‎ > > Tcl/Tk > > Hell yeah +1 Tk x11 widget toolkit needs Tcl scripting language... Not a lean set of

Re: [dev] Languages that suck (was "Note On Webkit Versions")

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Timothy Rice wrote: > > C is definitely not suckless either, especially when it comes > > to UB, but it's probably the language with least suck and > > highest simplicity while giving the most power to the developer. > > Not too long ago I expressed

Re: [dev] Languages that suck (was "Note On Webkit Versions")

2016-05-01 Thread Pickfire
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Timothy Rice wrote: C is definitely not suckless either, especially when it comes to UB, but it's probably the language with least suck and highest simplicity while giving the most power to the developer. Not too long ago I expressed support for C as a

[dev] Languages that suck (was "Note On Webkit Versions")

2016-05-01 Thread Timothy Rice
> C is definitely not suckless either, especially when it comes > to UB, but it's probably the language with least suck and > highest simplicity while giving the most power to the developer. Not too long ago I expressed support for C as a way to obtain very fast programs; the context is I work

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:14:20AM +0200, FRIGN wrote: > C is definitely not suckless either, especially when it comes > to UB, but it's probably the language with least suck and > highest simplicity while giving the most power to the developer. +1 :) -- Sylvain

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:24:31AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: > Additionnaly, the "modern" www tends to force the user to have a script-able > www browser, even though many www sites could provide their services with a > noscript www browser through a cleverly crafted main www portal or a

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 05:20:08PM +0200, Sanel Zukan wrote: > Sylvain BERTRAND writes: > >> pthreads are bad? Really? > > > > c++ is _really_ bad, indeed. > > I think I mentioned pthreads, not c++ :) Anyway, c++ is still _really_ bad and light years away from

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread FRIGN
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:54:39 +0200 Kamil Cholewiński wrote: Hey Kamil, > You don't need a proof, you only need a significant improvement upon C, > which Rust delivers. the big drawback of Rust in my opinion is lack of readability. There are too many things to do one thing

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sanel Zukan
Sylvain BERTRAND writes: >> pthreads are bad? Really? > > c++ is _really_ bad, indeed. I think I mentioned pthreads, not c++ :) >> dependencies (gtk, I look at you). > > https://github.com/sylware/misc/blob/master/gtk-utox/gtk-utox.sh This probably works for you

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Sanel Zukan writes: > > - FLTK is 100k sloc C++; includes support for Cairo, GL, kitchen sinks > > All these things can be disabled at compile time. Maybe you are not fond > of C++, but find me portable and usable C UI toolkit without tons of > dependencies (gtk, I look at you). libagar? --

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:58:36AM +0200, Sanel Zukan wrote: > Kamil Cholewiński writes: > > Bad stuff: > > > > - C++, autohell, pthreads > > pthreads are bad? Really? c++ is _really_ bad, indeed. > dependencies (gtk, I look at you).

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Mitt Green
> but find me portable and usable C UI toolkit > without tons of dependencies ‎ Tcl/Tk

Re: [dev] "Note On Webkit Versions"

2016-05-01 Thread Sanel Zukan
Kamil Cholewiński writes: > Bad stuff: > > - C++, autohell, pthreads pthreads are bad? Really? > - FLTK is 100k sloc C++; includes support for Cairo, GL, kitchen sinks All these things can be disabled at compile time. Maybe you are not fond of C++, but find me portable and