Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Quentin Carbonneaux
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:41:03PM +0300, Amer wrote: > For me it started playing nicely only with wrapper to tmux, though. > Because I didn't liked how sessions stayed alive after killing > terminals directly through window manager. > > $ st -e r.tmux > > $ cat r.tmux > #!/bin/bash -e >

Re: [dev] [sxiv] Discussion

2016-08-11 Thread hahj87
[2016-08-11 21:13] Cág > > part text/plain 126 > Marc Collin wrote: > > > For wallpaper I suggest bgs. > > https://github.com/Gottox/bgs > > It doesn't work well with compton. Haven't tried with compton, but i use: https://github.com/ttzhou/setroot

Re: [dev] [st] most suckless way to scroll & multiplex

2016-08-11 Thread Martin Kühne
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe wrote: > Hi Joseph, > I’ve been using the scrollback patch for local sessions recently > (terminal muxers inside window muxers seems overkill, and dvtm is > a _lot_ of code for just scrollback). If you need session

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Staven
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:36:21AM -0800, Britton Kerin wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:42:13 +0200 Britton Kerin > > wrote: > >> I realize it's a non-goal > > > > Then why

Re: [dev] [st] most suckless way to scroll & multiplex

2016-08-11 Thread Staven
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:15:02PM +0100, Joseph Graham wrote: > I am accustomed to having scrolling and multiplexing (in xfce4-terminal). To > get these the suckless way should I: > a. use tmux/screen > b. use tabbed and the st scrollback patch > c. something else I'm not sure about "the

Re: [dev] [st] most suckless way to scroll & multiplex

2016-08-11 Thread Markus Teich
Joseph Graham wrote: > I am accustomed to having scrolling and multiplexing (in > xfce4-terminal). > To get these the suckless way should I: > a. use tmux/screen > b. use tabbed and the st scrollback patch > c. something else Heyho Joseph, for local multiplexing I use tabbed, since its

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Amer
Thanks for idea, but this option doesn't feet the purpose at all. It will always destroy any unattached session. Even on manual detach. And what now? Manually switch option each time before detach? Bind switching to 'd' key and hope it's robust enough solution? Moreover, what to do with global

[dev] [st] most suckless way to scroll & multiplex

2016-08-11 Thread Joseph Graham
Hey all! I'm new to suckless and trying to learn the suckless ways... I am accustomed to having scrolling and multiplexing (in xfce4-terminal). To get these the suckless way should I: a. use tmux/screen b. use tabbed and the st scrollback patch c. something else Thanks in advance for any

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:35:26 +0200 Amer wrote: > For me it started playing nicely only with wrapper to tmux, though. > Because I didn't liked how sessions stayed alive after killing > terminals directly through window manager. > > $ st -e r.tmux > > $ cat r.tmux >

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Amer
For me it started playing nicely only with wrapper to tmux, though. Because I didn't liked how sessions stayed alive after killing terminals directly through window manager. $ st -e r.tmux $ cat r.tmux #!/bin/bash -e trap "tmux kill-session -t st-$$" INT TERM EXIT tmux new-session -s st-$$

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Hi, 2016-08-11 17:32 GMT, Britton Kerin : > It should be a goal because it's generally desirable and the > alternative mentioned on the web page isn't. I've fulfilled that desire by using tmux inside st.

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Martin Kühne
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Britton Kerin wrote: >> Fix the patches. > > I have no idea how and I haven't found suckless people fun to work with > Interesting how you switch a virtue (writing code) with laziness (telling others where things go). Tell me more about

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Ali H. Fardan
On 2016-08-11 20:32, Britton Kerin wrote: I realize it's a non-goal I realize there are patches that sort of work (still jumps to bottom on output unfortunately) It should be a goal because it's generally desirable and the alternative mentioned on the web page isn't. I use st because it let

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Britton Kerin
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > Greetings. > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:42:13 +0200 Britton Kerin > wrote: >> I realize it's a non-goal > > Then why do you send this useless mail? Because I care enough to call bs on stupid

Re: [dev] [sxiv] Discussion

2016-08-11 Thread Cág
Marc Collin wrote: For wallpaper I suggest bgs. https://github.com/Gottox/bgs It doesn't work well with compton. Cág

Re: [dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:42:13 +0200 Britton Kerin wrote: > I realize it's a non-goal Then why do you send this useless mail? > I realize there are patches that sort of work (still jumps to bottom > on output unfortunately) Fix the patches. > It should be a

[dev] st lack of scrollback

2016-08-11 Thread Britton Kerin
I realize it's a non-goal I realize there are patches that sort of work (still jumps to bottom on output unfortunately) It should be a goal because it's generally desirable and the alternative mentioned on the web page isn't. I use st because it let me control fonts precisely on new high-res

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread Joerg Jung
> On 11 Aug 2016, at 16:56, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > > You are using Apple Mail. I know. Not sure why this is relevant to this thread. [I also use mutt, mailx, surf, monit, sct, sxiv, dwm, amethyst, vim, sometimes firefox, and a very long list of other small pieces and a few

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:56:37 +0200 Joerg Jung wrote: > > > On 11 Aug 2016, at 16:17, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:17:30 +0200 Paul Menzel > > wrote: > >> Dear suckless folks, > >> > >> > >> st 0.6 was

[dev] [st] 0.7 release

2016-08-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. I am proud to announce the common effort of many of you who made it pos‐ sible to release st 0.7 (»à Nuces«). Much has changed, so don’t forget to update your config.h. Think before you post such bug reports. I am st surfcon1 (thus the codename) and ready to fight. What has

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:37:39 +0200 Joerg Jung wrote: Hey Joerg, > Seriously, you really want to start again the same stupid discussion > about releases and version numbers, which last time led to splitting > the mailing lists into dev and hackers? chill down, you should know by

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread Joerg Jung
> On 11 Aug 2016, at 16:17, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:17:30 +0200 Paul Menzel wrote: >> Dear suckless folks, >> >> >> st 0.6 was released in June 2015, that means over a year ago. >> >> Since then, there were another 76 commits

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:07:29 +0200 Paul Menzel wrote: Hey Paul, > Are there plans to get release 0.7(?) out, so that users, not > building from repository, but from release source archives, can > profit from them? just FIY, Christoph tagged a 0.7 release a few minutes

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Christoph Lohmann writes: > Greetings. > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:17:30 +0200 Paul Menzel wrote: > > Dear suckless folks, > > > > > > st 0.6 was released in June 2015, that means over a year ago. > > > > Since then, there were another 76 commits included into the master

Re: [dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:17:30 +0200 Paul Menzel wrote: > Dear suckless folks, > > > st 0.6 was released in June 2015, that means over a year ago. > > Since then, there were another 76 commits included into the master branch. > > ``` > $ git describe --tags

[dev] [st] Release planned?

2016-08-11 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear suckless folks, st 0.6 was released in June 2015, that means over a year ago. Since then, there were another 76 commits included into the master branch. ``` $ git describe --tags origin/master 0.6-76-g308bfbf ``` Are there plans to get release 0.7(?) out, so that users, not building

Re: [stali] scope (was: Re: [dev] neatroff)

2016-08-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 11 August 2016 at 11:21, FRIGN wrote: [..] > I am sure suckless.org has a lot of street-cred in the OSS-scene. We > could use this leverage to have a positive influence on a big > distribution people actually use. In the long term, making OpenBSD > better will benefit those who

Re: [dev] [sxiv] Discussion

2016-08-11 Thread S. R. Gal
> In fact, like you, I have also integrated `sxiv` into my "photography" > workflow, for both selecting potential images, and "analysing" them > with a few tools I've wrote myself. Would you mind sharing them? Sicerely, S. R. Gal

[stali] scope (was: Re: [dev] neatroff)

2016-08-11 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:03:13 +0200 Anselm R Garbe wrote: Hey Anselm, > I have no problem with OpenBSD per se, but I do think that its scope > is general (server) purpose and that the hardware support in the > embedded non-network space doesn't sound too great to me. linux

Re: [dev] neatroff

2016-08-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 11 August 2016 at 10:10, FRIGN wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:44:45 +0200 > Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> The stali plan has changed for me a bit during the last year. A couple >> of months ago I tried to get stali self-bootstrappable based on just >> src/. I

Re: [dev] [sxiv] Discussion

2016-08-11 Thread FRIGN
On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:09:44 +0200 Bert Münnich wrote: Hey Bert, > I was asked for sxiv becoming an official suckless project. I had > nothing against that move. And I have nothing against reversing it. I think there was a misunderstanding on my part. Does main development

Re: [dev] neatroff

2016-08-11 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:44:45 +0200 Anselm R Garbe wrote: Hey Anselm, > The stali plan has changed for me a bit during the last year. A couple > of months ago I tried to get stali self-bootstrappable based on just > src/. I have now given up on this idea for various reasons: >

Re: [dev] [sxiv] Discussion

2016-08-11 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Bert Münnich wrote: > There's already lel[0] that does just this. But sxiv is not only an > image viewer. I heavily use it to organize my image library, e.g. > visually selecting files to import from a huge collection of freshly > taken photos or

Re: [dev] neatroff

2016-08-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 10 August 2016 at 08:47, Eli Cohen wrote: > What's the plan for stali? I was under the impression it would be a > "suckless distro" with dwm, surf, st... will X11 stuff be in a > different repository? The stali plan has changed for me a bit during the last year. A couple