Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-05 Thread Richard
From: Dimitris Papastamos > > This is a fun distribution - thanks for writing it, R.> It is not ready yet! I know - but it is still fun...

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-05 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> > > - am I correct in thinking that we install manual pages, but currently no > > 'man' program to read them? > > I'd propose using the OpenBSD man tools. > I propose to use neatroff, that is a new implementation from scratch of the full troff toolchain. I know that the main use of troff

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-05 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:02:13AM +0200, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > > > > - am I correct in thinking that we install manual pages, but currently no > > > 'man' program to read them? > > > > I'd propose using the OpenBSD man tools. > > > > I propose to use neatroff, that is a new

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-05 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 5 October 2015 at 11:14, Dimitris Papastamos wrote: > On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:02:13AM +0200, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: >> > >> > > - am I correct in thinking that we install manual pages, but currently >> > > no 'man' program to read them? >> > >> > I'd propose

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-04 Thread Marc Collin
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Pickfire wrote: > Is there a package manager for suckless [...] ? Well maybe you could use apk[1]? Looks suckless to me. [1] http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/apk-tools/tree/

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-04 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 02:21:57PM +, Richard wrote: > Actually, having set my expectations very low, I am finding that it works > surprisingly well. Having played and poked around in the OS for a few hours > this has lead to yet more questions: > > - do we install a pager? I've look in bin

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-04 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 01:00:36PM -0300, Marc Collin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Pickfire wrote: > > Is there a package manager for suckless [...] ? > > > > Well maybe you could use apk[1]? > Looks suckless to me. There are no plans to have a package

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-02 Thread FRIGN
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 14:21:57 + (UTC) Richard wrote: Hey Richard, > - looking further ahead; has there been any thoughts towards a > staticallylinked/musl-based X11 server? Is it feasible to simply take > the xorg sources and compile those with static linking or

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-02 Thread Richard
- Original Message - > From: Dimitris Papastamos > As it stands, there is a lot of work to be done on stali. Do not > expect it to just work. If you want to help, then send some patches > to hackers@ for consideration. Actually, having set my expectations very low, I

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-02 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 04:29:09PM +0200, FRIGN wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 14:21:57 + (UTC) > Richard wrote: > > Hey Richard, > > > - looking further ahead; has there been any thoughts towards a > > staticallylinked/musl-based X11 server? Is it feasible to simply

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-10-02 Thread Greg Reagle
On 10/02/2015 10:21 AM, Richard wrote: - do we install a pager? I've look in bin for more/less/pg etc. Are there any plans for a pager? I looked in the TODO documents for both sbase and ubase but did not notice any. I am also curious about the pager.

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread hiro
suckless is about feeling the pain of the bad code and the broken make system first hand to drive shitty code off the nerd market.

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 25 September 2015 at 04:29, Pickfire wrote: > Is there a package manager for suckless or do you need to install > everything by source? I explained on http://sta.li in the goals section * "Upgrade/install using git, no package manager needed" Of course this goal is not

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Pickfire
Can I use sta.li on ARM architecture such as Raspberry Pi? -- _ < Do what you like, like what you do. > - \ ^__^ \ (oo)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || ||

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread hiro
pickfire, you can clearly not read: Target x86_64 support only (arm64 support might be added later) On 9/25/15, Pickfire wrote: > Can I use sta.li on ARM architecture such as Raspberry Pi? > > -- > _ > < Do what you like, like what you

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Richard
hoo.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, 24 September 2015, 20:12 Subject: Re: [dev] Stali RC On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 18:32:53 + (UTC) Richard <r_j_humphr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hey Richard, > ... I just wanted a quick sanity check: I'm sorry to tell you, but you haven't passed the test. >

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Richard
- From: FRIGN <d...@frign.de> To: dev@suckless.org Cc: Richard <r_j_humphr...@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Friday, 25 September 2015, 9:25 Subject: Re: [dev] Stali RC On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 08:14:34 + (UTC) Richard <r_j_humphr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > So, at the risk of failing another

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 25 September 2015 at 09:10, Pickfire wrote: > Can I use sta.li on ARM architecture such as Raspberry Pi? ARMv8 (64bit) will be a future target for stali, there is no rootfs-armv8 available yet. Also note, that according to my info Pi is currently limited to armv7 (32 bit)

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread FRIGN
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 08:14:34 + (UTC) Richard wrote: > So, at the risk of failing another sanity test, why does the /etc > directory not show up on the git tree listing? Is that a git quirk? > http://git.sta.li/rootfs-x86_64/tree/ Check out the src-repo[0], it

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi Richard, On 25 September 2015 at 10:45, Richard wrote: > Ah, great thanks. So I was half right: if you follow the instructions on > > http://sta.li/installation > > > git clone http://git.sta.li/rootfs-x86_64 > > you will end up with no /etc directory. But the

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-25 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 08:45:05AM +, Richard wrote: > Ah, great thanks. So I was half right: if you follow the instructions on > > http://sta.li/installation > > > git clone http://git.sta.li/rootfs-x86_64 > > you will end up with no /etc directory. But the directory is still needed in >

[dev] Stali RC

2015-09-24 Thread Richard
I have stumbled across stali and it looks intriguing. I would like to install it this weekend. I have perused http://git.sta.li/rootfs-x86_64/tree/ and http://sta.li/installation ... I just wanted a quick sanity check: - Am I right in assuming that stali does not include a /etc directory

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-24 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 18:32:53 + (UTC) Richard wrote: Hey Richard, > ... I just wanted a quick sanity check: I'm sorry to tell you, but you haven't passed the test. > - Am I right in assuming that stali does not include a /etc directory (and > therefore does not

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-24 Thread 7heo
wrote: >Richard wrote: > >Hey Richard, Hello, Richard, > >> ... I just wanted a quick sanity check: > >I'm sorry to tell you, but you haven't passed the test. > First of all, welcome to suckless. You won't need sanity here. It has long been forgotten,

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-24 Thread hiro
or not, like me.

Re: [dev] Stali RC

2015-09-24 Thread Pickfire
Is there a package manager for suckless or do you need to install everything by source? -- _ < Do what you like, like what you do. > - \ ^__^ \ (oo)\___ (__)\ )\/\