On Mon 04 Jul 2011 08:58:07 PM PDT, Pieter Praet wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:18:16 -0700, Noah Birnel wrote:
I am not arguing that no one should attempt to calibrate their
monitor - but that it is not a necessity for all graphics work.
In our case, it would be a waste of time.
So you'll
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:23:03 +0200
pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
Also crt and lcd/tft screens have differet brightness effects. Tft are less
damaging to eyes than crt.. So i think discussion about colors on text moved
to only stethical and personal issue because its no longer dramatic
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:20:02 +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:23:03 +0200
pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
Also crt and lcd/tft screens have differet brightness effects. Tft are less
damaging to eyes than crt.. So i think discussion about
Most people getting eye problems in front of the computer are caused
by the concentrated day-long staring without blinking once.
Personally I hate the typical CRT flickering (especially if set to 85 Hz)
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:55:38 +0200, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
Most people getting eye problems in front of the computer are caused
by the concentrated day-long staring without blinking once.
^ Also rather influential.
Especially for Ethan, who (based on his reference to deviantART today
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:23:05 +0200
Pieter Praet pie...@praet.org wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:55:38 +0200, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
Most people getting eye problems in front of the computer are caused
by the concentrated day-long staring without blinking once.
^ Also rather
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:13:09 +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm
wrote:
[...]
I do seem to have less of a problem when there's a color management
system in the display, but I can't imagine anything more sucky in a
display than a system to adjust every already-rendered pixel.
[...]
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 06:00:49PM +0200, Pieter Praet wrote:
Color calibration [1] (and frequent recalibration) is mandatory when
doing *anything* graphics-related for production purposes, as the output
of any and every visual output device known to man *will* be distorted,
due to used
I don't get it, are you calibrating your printer so that it matches
the display instead?
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 18:39, Noah Birnel nbir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 06:00:49PM +0200, Pieter Praet wrote:
Color calibration [1] (and frequent recalibration) is mandatory when
doing
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 07:00:33PM +0200, hiro wrote:
I don't get it, are you calibrating your printer so that it matches
the display instead?
No. The printer and the monitor are not going to match. There is no
hope for that. What matters to us is the print.
I am not arguing that no one
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:18:16 -0700, Noah Birnel nbir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 07:00:33PM +0200, hiro wrote:
I don't get it, are you calibrating your printer so that it matches
the display instead?
No. The printer and the monitor are not going to match. There is no
hope
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:53:32 +0200, Nicolai Waniek roc...@rochus.net wrote:
On 06/07/2011 07:09 PM, pancake wrote:
Its anti natural.
It's not.
Because I asked myself which is the best working environment regarding
ones eyes some time ago, I looked around for some scientific research on
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:23:03 +0200, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
Just to add my 5c to the thread..
I remember in the msdos5.0 age where everybody was using a 80x25 text console
to run programs and graphical mode was just for games..
Many text editors used a blue background. This is:
Then the easiest to read is amber on black. There is a lot we can learn from
the sharp shooters, and the old dumb terminals.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Pieter Praet pie...@praet.org wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:23:03 +0200, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
Just to add my 5c to the
Dnia 13 czerwca 2011 20:14 Michael Farnbach
noble.obl...@gmail.com napisał(a):
Then the easiest to read is amber on black. There is a lot we can
learn from the sharp shooters, and the old dumb terminals.
Wondering if this concept is related to selective yellow [1]
[1]
On 06/07/2011 07:09 PM, pancake wrote:
Its anti natural.
It's not.
Because I asked myself which is the best working environment regarding
ones eyes some time ago, I looked around for some scientific research on
the topic of black-background vs white background.
There's not that much research
On 12 June 2011 10:53, Nicolai Waniek roc...@rochus.net wrote:
Quite the opposite, that they could not detect any difference.
So uh, not *quite* the opposite.
I'm willing to believe people have a higher reading speed with
black-on-white, though I suspect this is in part because that's how we
Just to add my 5c to the thread..
I remember in the msdos5.0 age where everybody was using a 80x25 text console
to run programs and graphical mode was just for games..
Many text editors used a blue background. This is:
wordperfect/wordstar/edit.com ..
I remember my teacher arguing this as
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:12:26PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:40:48PM +0200, ilf wrote:
On 06-08 12:13, Bert Münnich wrote:
i dont think this is a task for an image viewer. we should
probably write an ssetroot or so linking against imlib2 and
allowing opaque
On 06-09 09:04, Petr Sabata wrote:
How about bgs?
http://s01.de/~tox/index.cgi/proj_bgs
Been using that for a while. Doesn't do it for me with rxvt-unicode
9.09 any more, because it doesn't set XROOTPMAP on the root window. Too
busy to fix.
--
ilf
Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine
The Tamsyn guy says it's an aliased font. What does it mean?
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:00, ilf i...@zeromail.org wrote:
On 06-09 09:04, Petr Sabata wrote:
How about bgs? http://s01.de/~tox/index.cgi/proj_bgs
Been using that for a while. Doesn't do it for me with rxvt-unicode 9.09 any
more,
On 9 June 2011 13:50, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
The Tamsyn guy says it's an aliased font. What does it mean?
It means it isn't anti-aliased.
Nice font, btw.
cls
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:50:53 +0200
hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
The Tamsyn guy says it's an aliased font. What does it mean?
It's not, but it has some overlap in places which makes it look smoother.
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:55:30 +0100
Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:50:53 +0200
hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
The Tamsyn guy says it's an aliased font. What does it mean?
It's not, but it has some overlap in places which makes it look smoother.
My
The Tamsyn guy says it's an aliased font. What does it mean?
He means it's not anti-aliased. See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing
--
Eckehard Berns
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 02:50:53 PM PDT, hiro wrote:
The Tamsyn guy says it's an aliased font. What does it mean?
Here's a reply from the author of Tamsyn regarding this matter:
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:04:43 -0700
From: Scott Fial sc...@fial.com
To: Suraj N. Kurapati
I like his rationale. pre-aliasing and neuro-aliasing come to mind,
but idiotic as it might sound the only technically clear term is
really not antialiased.
I guess I (we?) should get a life :D
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:34:00PM +0200, pancake wrote:
If you need thumbs use an image viewer. Gqview works quite well for this.
sxiv is my image viewer of choice, currently...
http://github.com/muennich/sxiv
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:01:10AM +0200, Petr Sabata wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 12:57:40PM +0800, Patrick Haller wrote:
define $EDITOR then ^x^e
I guess this is just something bash-specific?
yeah, edit the current command using $EDITOR
file manager
= file selection + file
I can only say: Wow!
it's 2088LOC..but it's config.h friendly, simple, clean and fast. x))
thanks for noticing, im gonna package it in slpm
On 06/08/11 08:05, Petr Sabata wrote:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:34:00PM +0200, pancake wrote:
If you need thumbs use an image viewer. Gqview works
On 06/07/11 19:44, Andreas Wagner wrote:
I like dmenfm (dmenu based file manager):
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=2p=1
yay, looks like a nice tool. but:
- it's bash, should be rewritten to be posix
- there's spaguettis in the file opening code
- doesnt honor default unix
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 01:09:38AM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
It's also good for unpacking archives, I much prefer its zoom-to-unpack to
mucking about with tar (or especially zip,) although it's not as clean as
p9's `hget url | gunzip | tar -x`.
you know you can do something like
+ pancake ---+
White background terminals harm my eyes.
I cant think on anybody spending lot of time on a white background terminal.
Its anti natural.
no for me it is not, i'm using black on white for a long time now:
Noah Birnel nbir...@gmail.com writes:
So a suckless file manager would maybe throw away the whole file manager
concept and have a sort of dmenu-like multiple file selector?
This patch may be useful:
http://tools.suckless.org/dmenu/patches/multiselect_and_newline
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+-- Petr Sabata ---+
sxiv is my image viewer of choice, currently...
http://github.com/muennich/sxiv
thank you for pointing out - i immediatelyÂswitched from
feh to sxiv it's so much better and tiling friendly ...
On 06-08 11:23, Yoshi Rokuko wrote:
sxiv is my image viewer of choice, currently...
http://github.com/muennich/sxiv
thank you for pointing out - i immediately?switched from
feh to sxiv it's so much better and tiling friendly ...
I use feh only for --bg-center, any way to do that with sxiv?
On 06/08/11 11:49, ilf wrote:
On 06-08 11:23, Yoshi Rokuko wrote:
sxiv is my image viewer of choice, currently...
http://github.com/muennich/sxiv
thank you for pointing out - i immediately?switched from feh to sxiv
it's so much better and tiling friendly ...
I use feh only for --bg-center,
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:04 AM, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
changing the background is not something we do everyday unless
you have any kind of mental disease..
I like to change my background to a random color every 2-10ms; it's
easier on the eyes than the plain black I used formerly,
I like to change my background to a random color every 2-10ms; it's
http://dagobah.net/flash/epilepsy-with-nice-music.swf
I like to change my background to a random color every 2-10ms; it's
easier on the eyes than the plain black I used formerly, especially
with my transparent terminals.
I hate to say it but this makes some sense. However, the tools to
use to get it right are already around (cron+xsetroot+sh), so I
On 06/08/11 14:43, Mate Nagy wrote:
I like to change my background to a random color every 2-10ms; it's
http://dagobah.net/flash/epilepsy-with-nice-music.swf
http://lolcathost.org/
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 03:45:11PM +0800, Patrick Haller wrote:
file manager
= file selection + file (pre)viewing
= ls/awk/$EDITOR + i_give_my_files_retarded_names
= fix your naming convention
Really? You never work with files created and named by other people? And
all of
On 8 June 2011 09:32, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
it is impossible to rename a file
O wow, I definitely missed the sarcasm here, was about to say
rename(2) ?
I must be tired.
On 06-08 12:13, Bert Münnich wrote:
i dont think this is a task for an image viewer. we should probably
write an ssetroot or so linking against imlib2 and allowing opaque
colors like xsetroot does..
Yay!
but well.. changing the background is not something we do everyday
unless you have any
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:40:48PM +0200, ilf wrote:
On 06-08 12:13, Bert Münnich wrote:
i dont think this is a task for an image viewer. we should
probably write an ssetroot or so linking against imlib2 and
allowing opaque colors like xsetroot does..
I think developing another X
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:09:25 +0200
pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
White background terminals harm my eyes.
I cant think on anybody spending lot of time on a white background terminal.
Its anti natural.
I've been through a lot of (old) screens and I have to say it depends on screen
and
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:52:23 +0100
Nick suckless-...@njw.me.uk wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 01:09:38AM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
It's also good for unpacking archives, I much prefer its zoom-to-unpack to
mucking about with tar (or especially zip,) although it's not as clean as
On 8 June 2011 21:39, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Incidentally, I compared executable sizes of curl wget and p9p hget the other
day, finding hget to be larger than curl. Maybe it's the p9p libs, but Plan 9
hget is about as large.
P9P executables are huge. It's ridiculous.
On Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:26:08 PM PDT, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:09:25 +0200 pancake wrote:
White background terminals harm my eyes.
I cant think on anybody spending lot of time on a white
background terminal. Its anti natural.
I've been through a lot of (old)
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:50:14 -0700
Suraj N. Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed 08 Jun 2011 09:26:08 PM PDT, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:09:25 +0200 pancake wrote:
White background terminals harm my eyes.
I cant think on anybody spending lot of time on a white
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:47:02 +0100
Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote:
On 8 June 2011 21:39, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Incidentally, I compared executable sizes of curl wget and p9p hget the
other day, finding hget to be larger than curl. Maybe it's the p9p libs,
On Wed 08 Jun 2011 10:11:52 PM PDT, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:50:14 -0700 Suraj N. Kurapati wrote:
[2]: http://www.fial.com/~scott/tamsyn-font/
If I may say so on brief acquaintance with it, that's a well-made
bitmap font, that is.
Indeed, Tamsyn is the fairest
I've never felt the need of seeing files as icons. It's just inneficient and
useless.
Many years ago i wrote 'canoe' a lightweight filemanager in gtk. I did it for
the n770.. So clicking on icons is better than Using the shitty onscreen
keyboard that n770 had
It has some segfaults, and
On 7 June 2011 15:53, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
Continuing these threads about suckless anything
I've been looking quite a long time for fast and lightweight file manager
for dwm. There are occasions, when u need to see or show some lovely icons.
MC and derivatives are the last resort
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
I've never felt the need of seeing files as icons. It's just inneficient
and useless.
Many years ago i wrote 'canoe' a lightweight filemanager in gtk. I did it
for the n770.. So clicking on icons is better than Using the
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote:
Hey,
On 7 June 2011 15:53, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
There are occasions, when u need to see or show some lovely icons.
With the exception of image thumbnails, icons are really completely
pointless.
On 7
What's phycology?
Oh, well.. Wikipedia informs: the scientific studies of algae
On 07/06/2011, at 17:32, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote:
Hey,
On 7 June 2011 15:53, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
There are
pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote:
What's phycology?
Oh, well.. Wikipedia informs: the scientific studies of algae
Hey! Just because they can't use terminal does not mean
they're algae. That could be somebody's mother you
know.
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Le Tian wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
[...] (I find inverting the colours actually helps to a worrying
degree.)
Interesting... Yeah, I find inverting the colours actually helps to a
worrying degree. I think this should be a default
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Benjamin R. Haskell suckl...@benizi.comwrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Le Tian wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
[...] (I find inverting the colours actually helps to a worrying degree.)
Interesting... Yeah, I find inverting
On 7 June 2011 17:01, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
And the dark background is less scary? I'd have expected the opposite
I thought he meant light background and dark font.
Indeed. This is how it is in Plan 9 and OS X, too. I used
dark-on-light for a while, actually, and it just didn't
White background terminals harm my eyes.
I cant think on anybody spending lot of time on a white background terminal.
Its anti natural.
As a funny note. All non-advanced users tell me that this black terminal have
aome text they cant delete. (the prompt)
Looks like the plan9 terminal will be
I like dmenfm (dmenu based file manager):
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=2p=1
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
Continuing these threads about suckless anything
I've been looking quite a long time for fast and lightweight file manager
for dwm.
On 7 Jun 2011 18:45, Andreas Wagner andreasbwag...@gmail.com wrote:
I like dmenfm (dmenu based file manager):
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=2p=1
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Le Tian tiane...@gmail.com wrote:
Continuing these threads abo...
Ok the last mail to the list,is proof that all smartphones suck...
What are the thoughts on 'pilot ' alpones file manager (its available as a
standalone app iirc)
Jase
On 7 Jun 2011 20:29, Hootiegibbon hootiegib...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 Jun 2011 18:45, Andreas Wagner andreasbwag...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 04:25:40PM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote:
With the exception of image thumbnails, icons are really completely pointless.
+1
My thoughts on a suckless file manager, though my file manager is 'ls':
Orthodox: two paned, plus command line. At compile time you just
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:03:06PM -0700, Noah Birnel wrote:
ls listing vim listing mv `cat listing` dest
define $EDITOR then ^x^e
Patrick
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