Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Jacob Todd
This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist.

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Mark
On 05.05.2011 22:04, Al Gest wrote: You know what's great? freedom of choice. You know what sucks? People telling you what you're allowed to do with the software you use. Is this suckmore or suckless? Only sane argument so far. Anyway, go on list, i have enough Popcorn for the show :P

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread errno
(for the tl;dr folks - nothing to see here, move along) On Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:28:03 PM Uriel wrote: There is no justification whatsoever for transparent terminals. From a purely sociological/psychological standpoint, I can't help but be fascinated with this sort of reasoning. I'm

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Mark
On 04.05.2011 23:00, Rob wrote: And apply the patch. It might not apply cleanly since I diff'd from my heavily patched dwm, so you'll have to do some shuftying. There are also two other transparency patches available at the dwm site: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/transparency (configurable

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 6 May 2011 08:28, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist. I second this. This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;) And it is not really hard to conclude that translucent terminals are bad for your eyes. After a

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-06 Thread Aurélien Aptel
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote: 2.5) Easy / sensible defaults.  Sorry but Emacs-style shortcut keys are an oxymoron.  Any window manager that uses Emacs Key Chords is immediately disqualified.  With wmii you switch between windows and tags with 2

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread ilf
On 05-06 09:33, Anselm R Garbe wrote: This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist. This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;) http://xkcd.com/386/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:30:28 +0200, Uriel wrote: In any case, Go's own DNS resolver is still there, and for example on ARM by default it still bypasses the libc for everything. Not for long. http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=1166 -- Pierre 'catwell' Chapuis

[dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread M1kes
hi! there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm anymore.. for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to dwm but without this main-features the dayly use of

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Jacob Todd
There's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the wiki. On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM, m1...@web.de wrote: hi! there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm anymore.. for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of frames in a tag

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread M1kes
hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager andnot just available pver a patch..these were some of the main reasons Iliked wmii..Von: Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.comGesendet: 06.05.2011 14:57:37An: dev mail list dev@suckless.orgBetreff: Re: [dev] dwmThere's a patch that

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Petr Sabata
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:26:11PM +0200, m1...@web.de wrote: htmlhead/headbody bgcolor='#FF' style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;'hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager andbr/not just available pver a

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
The very monolithic busybox doesn't seem to fit with the rest in my view. Couldn't you possibly use stuff from 9base for this?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:47 AM, errno er...@cox.net wrote: Uriel or Kurt - care to explain why you care so deeply about other peoples' software habits? And do you really feel that it's like your duty or function or purpose to rid the world of... transparent terminals or something? This is the

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 AM, m1...@web.de wrote: hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager and not just available pver a patch..these were some of the main reasons I liked wmii.. Incorrect. Your desires are based on a misunderstanding of dwm. You have a 'layout'

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote: You may like starting to play with sdb. http://hg.youterm.com/sdb Its a nosql-like (key-value db) based on cdb, but with a decent api and aiming to provide a memcache network protocol. Its about 1000 LOC atm. Contribs are

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Al Gest
On 6 May 2011 15:13, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: If stupidity goes unchallenged, it gets institutionalized, and then you have Lennart Poettering. So why do you get so agitated when people challenge yours?

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

2011-05-06 Thread pancake
On 05/06/11 16:28, hiro wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, pancakepanc...@youterm.com wrote: You may like starting to play with sdb. http://hg.youterm.com/sdb Its a nosql-like (key-value db) based on cdb, but with a decent api and aiming to provide a memcache network protocol. Its about

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Jakub Lach
May 2011 15:59 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera (newer also want qt iirc). Nope. While quite big and and packed with features, new Opera can use plain X, and does not force cups, gtk, qt, dbus, hal etc

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Al Gest himse...@gmail.com wrote: So why do you get so agitated when people challenge yours? Is this supposed to be clever, or are you trying to say something -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Because it's linked in or because it doesn't use it? On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: May 2011 15:59 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera  (newer also want qt iirc). Nope. While quite big and and

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:13:31AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:47 AM, errno er...@cox.net wrote: Uriel or Kurt - care to explain why you care so deeply about other peoples' software habits? And do you really feel that it's like your duty or function or purpose to rid

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Because it's linked in or because it doesn't use it? Because most of it is compiled statically and the bits that are not are shipped in the tarball and installed in-tree. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread pancake
new opera have its own widget library. but its closed source. which sucks. On 05/06/11 16:46, Jakub Lach wrote: May 2011 15:59 hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote: For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera (newer also want qt iirc). Nope. While quite big and and packed with

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit. About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because of C++ or are there other reasons I've overseen?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Al Gest
On 6 May 2011 15:39, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: Is this supposed to be clever, or are you trying to say something I thought the implication was quite clear, my mistake.

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
When uriel submits 6 posts in succession you can be sure there's a steaming pile of shit in that thread. xkdc links in tech arguments are like Hitler references in politics.

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit. About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because of C++ or are there other

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, m1...@web.de wrote: hi! there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm anymore.. for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to

[dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Hello comrades, as the problem arose again on IRC: Is tabbed still maintained? There have been multiple patches to add a way to make tabbed a common tool, which allows the user to specify the to be run command on execution. Why wasn't any of those patches applied? The patches were [0] and [1].

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 6 May 2011 18:29, Christoph Lohmann 2...@r-36.net wrote: Who is the maintainer of tabbed anyway? The developer used to be Enno Boland (gottox), but he doesn't seem to have committed anything for almost a year. Is tabbed still maintained? Considering the inactivity I would assume not.

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Someone without any knowledge of C or English will actually pick me up with a small bus in a few hours. Must be coincidence I guess. I'm asking because some of the core developers have been asking on their mailing list what other fast and light toolkit to use. You know I don't want to start a

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread ilf
On 05-06 17:04, hiro wrote: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my phone number. WTF. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Don't make me look at it! On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:26:11PM +0200, m1...@web.de wrote: htmlhead/headbody bgcolor='#FF' style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;'hm well

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 6 May 2011 19:59, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: I would happy to apply Stephen's patch, and take over as maintainer of tabbed, if Enno and/or Anselm is happy with that. Just do it, if Enno complains, I buy him a beer ;) Cheers, Anselm

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 6 May 2011 17:13, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit. About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread pancake
Is the distance to the sun affecting in some way the mind of people in this mailing list? On 06/05/2011, at 20:33, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2011 17:13, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Of course

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Spot on, it's because of the Retinol. Sun rays are coming through the planks more frequently these days :)

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Enno Boland (Gottox)
Hi! If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Unfortunally, I'm kept busy with my studies. And it would be really a shame to keep this software inactive. I'm still willing to support the development. But as it become clear over the last few month that I'm not able to keep track the list,

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 6 May 2011 20:52, Enno Boland (Gottox) got...@gmail.com wrote: If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Okay; I've applied a modified version of Stephen's patch to tip. I've kept my changes fairly minimal. I'm happy to port the drawing code to draw.c (as in dmenu) if you like, which

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread u
Hi, On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:52:07PM +0200, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: Hi! If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Unfortunally, I'm kept busy with my studies. And it would be really a shame to keep this software inactive. I'm still willing to support the development. But as

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Jens Staal
For a web browser I would recommend NetSurf, not to be confused with surf (which is a shameful disgrace for the suckless project). Not to re-ignite the (very) volatile feelings on this list lately, but I just happened to stumble on a *nix port of abaco (http://lab-fgb.com/abaco/). Considering