Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
I recommend porting Dis to jslinux.

Re: [dev] Make dmenu sensitive to user aliases ("Hello world")

2011-10-03 Thread Andrew Hills
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > mouthbreathing farmers. I can't tell whether or not this is an insult. --Andrew Hills

Re: [dev] Make dmenu sensitive to user aliases ("Hello world")

2011-10-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > Strangely, this is actually a difficult problem to solve elegantly > whilst remaining POSIX-compliant. dmenu_run uses a hack involving 'ls > -t'. It's gross. I'd like to see sbase include a version of stat(1) that wasn't written by mouthb

Re: [dev] Make dmenu sensitive to user aliases ("Hello world")

2011-10-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 3 October 2011 20:01, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > I stand corrected.  Thank you. Strangely, this is actually a difficult problem to solve elegantly whilst remaining POSIX-compliant. dmenu_run uses a hack involving 'ls -t'. It's gross. cls

Re: [dev] Make dmenu sensitive to user aliases ("Hello world")

2011-10-03 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Mon 03 Oct 2011 07:49:04 PM PDT, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 3 October 2011 19:42, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > > Never heard of mtime(1).  Is that POSIX sh?  This is: > > > > update_config() { [ $cfg -nt $history ] && . $cfg ; } > > No it isn't, the '-nt' flag is a non-POSIX test(1) extension.

Re: [dev] Make dmenu sensitive to user aliases ("Hello world")

2011-10-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 3 October 2011 19:42, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > Never heard of mtime(1).  Is that POSIX sh?  This is: > > update_config() { [ $cfg -nt $history ] && . $cfg ; } No it isn't, the '-nt' flag is a non-POSIX test(1) extension. cls

Re: [dev] Make dmenu sensitive to user aliases ("Hello world")

2011-10-03 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Mon 03 Oct 2011 08:05:26 AM PDT, Patrick Haller wrote: > update_config() { [ `mtime $cfg` -gt `mtime $history` ] && . $cfg > ; } > export PS1='`update_config`> ' Never heard of mtime(1). Is that POSIX sh? This is: update_config() { [ $cfg -nt $history ] && . $cfg ; } -- Waste not fresh tea

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread stanio
(top posted) +1 * Nick [2011-10-03 18:16]: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 06:11:44PM +0200, Jakub Lach wrote: > > +1 > > > +1 > >   > > Bam, Jakub is excluded from the debate. > > Incidentally, while we're trying to be fascist about email > style, I hate 'contributions' of +1. -- stanio_

Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:44:23 +0200, pancake wrote: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer Nice, I didn't know that. As for what I was looking for I guess I will evaluate the possibilities to implement something else on top of some version of the Lua VM for now.

Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 3 October 2011 18:38, pancake wrote: > Because there's nothing virtual in a real architecture. And emulating it is > just an emulation. Virtualization is not supported by mips. So.. You're right, MIPS isn't a VM, it's an ISA. But the Dis virtual machine is based upon the Dis ISA (a CISC

Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread pancake
Nope. Virtualization != emulation != simulation != interpretation. Nevertheless when ppl talk about virtual machines they usually refer to pieces of software that implement machines that cannot be implemented by hardware because they provide high level opcodes and primitives. If you use gxemul

Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread pancake
Because there's nothing virtual in a real architecture. And emulating it is just an emulation. Virtualization is not supported by mips. So.. On 03/10/2011, at 19:25, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > pancake writes: > >> Mips is not a vm. > > Why not? :P > > -- > Christian Neukirchenhttp:/

Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:38 PM, pancake wrote: Emulating is virtually executing...

[dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Christian Neukirchen
pancake writes: > Mips is not a vm. Why not? :P -- Christian Neukirchenhttp://chneukirchen.org

[dev] [svkbd] TODO

2011-10-03 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings, on #suckless there was a discussion how to improve svkbd to be more useful in a suckless tablet environment. Here is the TODO list. # svkbd ## TODO * move svkbd repository to suckless.org for hackers@ listing * fix button down passthrough bug (button up instead of down should be hand

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings, touch your own nose. Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann Sent while having a nice shit. Kurt H Maier wrote: > +1 > > > > Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint > > - > On Oct 3, 2011 12:15 PM, Ni

Re: [dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread pancake
Mips is not a vm.. But talking about simple architectures... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer On 03/10/2011, at 18:14, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > Pierre Chapuis writes: > >> I am wondering what the simplest multi-language VM is. > > MIPS. > > -- > Christian Ne

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
+1 Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint On Oct 3, 2011 12:15 PM, Nick wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 06:11:44PM +0200, Jakub Lach wrote: > +1 >   > Dnia 3 października 2011 18:03 Petr Sabata <con...@redhat.com> napisał(a): > > On Mon, Oct

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Jakub Lach
> Bam, Jakub is excluded from the debate. Don't tell me you don't like comic sans? I would use http://llamafont.com/ to cheer you up, but don't know how to use it in emails. Man, those computer things are hard.

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Nick
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 06:11:44PM +0200, Jakub Lach wrote: > +1 >   > Dnia 3 października 2011 18:03 Petr Sabata > napisał(a): > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:37:15PM +, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis >

[dev] Re: Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Pierre Chapuis writes: > I am wondering what the simplest multi-language VM is. MIPS. -- Christian Neukirchenhttp://chneukirchen.org

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Jakub Lach
+1   Dnia 3 października 2011 18:03 Petr Sabata napisał(a): > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:37:15PM +, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > > On another note entirely, would you mind not wraping your

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Petr Sabata
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:37:15PM +, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis > wrote: > > On another note entirely, would you mind not wraping your text so wide, > > please? My eyes aren't too good so I use larger text, and anything > > wrapped over ab

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:37:15 + Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis > wrote: > > On another note entirely, would you mind not wraping your text so > > wide, please? My eyes aren't too good so I use larger text, and > > anything wrapped over about 75-

Re: [dev] Formatting emails

2011-10-03 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On another note entirely, would you mind not wraping your text so wide, > please? My eyes aren't too good so I use larger text, and anything > wrapped over about 75-80 columns double-wraps which is unpleasant to > read. It's not just you

Re: [dev] Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread pancake
There are some languages that compile to luavm. I would prefer lua than java, parrot or dotnet. Dalvik is not an option as long as its src sucks and there's only a single lang to compile for it atm... Go will be another option soon probably. Jamvm is probably the best option for running java..

Re: [dev] Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
next question: most suckless optimizing XML <-> asn.1 translator

[dev] Most suckless multi-language VM

2011-10-03 Thread Pierre Chapuis
I am wondering what the simplest multi-language VM is. Obviously the CLR and JVM are not candidates. Parrot is interesting but is bloated too. The Lua VM is simple but too tied to the language. I have found about the Dis VM [1]. It looks interesting, does anybody here still use it? Otherwise, G

Re: [dev] wmpus - a new cross platform wm

2011-10-03 Thread Andy Spencer
On 2011-10-03 06:13, Al Gest wrote: > > The GPL is generally my preferred license, but lets not get into that > > argument now. However, I could probably be convinced to switch to a > > permissive license for this particular program. Would the ISC license > > work for you? > > Revised BSD, ISC, an

Re: [dev] wmpus - a new cross platform wm

2011-10-03 Thread Andy Spencer
On 2011-10-03 15:01, Yue Wu wrote: > No any doc about how to use it... There is now a simple man page in the source repository, and a copy of it on the wiki, hope that helps. > And I feel some slow down when moving the window on windows 2000. I have not tested it with windows 2000. I did notice

Re: [dev] wmpus - a new cross platform wm

2011-10-03 Thread Yue Wu
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 07:23:25AM +, Andy Spencer wrote: > Hello there, > > I would like to point out a project I've started on for *yet another* > new window manager, called `wmpus' [1]. It's not actually a suckless > project, but I thought some folks here might be interested nonetheless. >