On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Szabolcs Nagynszabo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/8/09, Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com wrote:
I forgot to mention that the German Pirate Party has taken a more
'expansive' approach to their positions, and that actually has put off
a few people I know from voting
(or
don't even bother to open threads you aren't interested in, if I read
every single email posted to every single list I'm subscribed to it
would take me more than 24/7 of email reading just to keep up).
Peace
uriel
P.S.: Perhaps having chat@ for random crap and relegating dev@ for
only technical
Agreed, OpenBSD is far from perfect, but it sucks much less than any
other *nix system out there this days.
Peace
uriel
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jack Woehrj...@well.com wrote:
There's already a BSD distrib that sucks less. It's called OpenBSD!
--
Jack J. Woehr # I run
This list has become like the internet's kindergarten...
And Erik Naggum is dead, just when the world needs him most, what a sad day :(
uriel
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Kris Maglionemaglion...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:18:15PM +0800, Ludovic Guégan wrote:
Same to me
in the software industry.
uriel
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM, hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
As said, don't miss that all these efforts will be kept at
its most minimalist solution.
Easily said...
It is the Sensible Solution[tm] to
do it the way he suggests.
...
Separating interface
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Jack Woehrj...@well.com wrote:
Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote:
2009/6/21 Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com:
Excessive and naive obsession with code reuse is one of the major
sources of gratuitous complexity in the software industry.
Ooh! Nice. Having an idea
and pointless, and anyone using it is a masochist at best.
uriel
4- Going to dev versions of needed (for patches for example) doesn't
means you need to wait 6 months for it.
--
Sincerely,
Antony Jepson / anton...@gmail.com / GPG Key: 0xFA10ED80
DSLs are great, but that is no excuse to build systems so insanely
broken and complex that you need to generate all of the code to
implement a protocol because it is too insanely complex to be done
properly.
The whole thing stinks way too much of CORBA/SOAP...
uriel
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10
Just updated my online programming quotes archive, it contains some
quotes that in my opinion have inspired much of the 'suckless'
software philosophy, so take a look and lets use this thread to post
your favorite programming quotes.
http://quotes.cat-v.org/programming
Enjoy uriel
Haha, thanks for spotting that, I wonder if it was on purpose :) I
fixed it anyway.
uriel
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
This is offtopic, but in fortunes.cat-v.org/kernelnewbies, the following quote
is there twice:
%
Thanks, and THIS time it really
I don't know, but it clearly seems a logical argument that Kris is
making. Trying to apply logic and consistency to writing and language
is hard, but well worth it. (I'm very bad at it, I might add.)
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Kurt H Maierkarmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at
Maybe nobody cares about C#?
It hardly seems worth even making fun of, and as Kurt well points out
just going to http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java and doing a
mental s/Java/C#/ should do just fine if you really want quotes about
C#
uriel
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd
works just fine.
Also I was wondering if surf implements the traditional Unix text
editing keybindings: http://unix-kb.cat-v.org I *hate* when ff or any
other stupid browser closes the window/tab when I press ^W to *delete
the previous word* (as God meant it to do).
uriel
I wrote a chrome extension that fixes this ;)
http://repo.cat-v.org/burning_chrome/hosaka/
I might write a similar extension for Firefox some day..
uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Kurt H Maierkarmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Uriellost.gob...@gmail.com wrote
imply shared libs or some such crap.
Using factotum doesn't make it a requirement, it is just a convenient
way to handle auth and passwords.
uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Claudio M. Alessismo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 09:51:59AM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote:
this is the biggest reason I hate firefox too. ^u should not view
source, it should erase the damn line.
I guess you (and Uriel) would be happy
for it.
As for the lines of code, it is mostly external libs that they happen
to include in their tree, if webkit did the same it would be many
millions of lines.
uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Szabolcs Nagynszabo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/3/09, Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com wrote:
to go, at the moment
to build a new window system, that IMHO seems
like a natural starting point.
uriel
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, David Tweeddavid.tw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Kurt H Maierkarmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Anselm R Garbegarb...@gmail.com wrote
replace the whole model with something sensible like libdraw.
uriel
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM, hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry, but this sounds complicated.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, yyyiyu@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/5 Alexander Polakov polac...@gmail.com:
Well, explaining
P9p now includes awk, one less reason to use 9base.
uriel
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM, quinq...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I tried to build 9base, and I encountered the following error:
In file included from awk.h:184,
from re.c:34:
proto.h:134: error: conflicting types
release in the near future for
some years now...
uriel
I don't have a lifetime to spend studying all the debian arcana and
follow their byzantine bureaucracy.
uriel
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Preben Randholrand...@pvv.org wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:00:48 +0200
Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com wrote:
To me, the only difference is that unlike
the official README, it's kind of
scary:
Never mind garbeam, he is being delusional as usual.
uriel
Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here
This is undoubtedly the most ugly program in the distribution. It was one of
the first serious programs ported, and still has a lot
with GNU stuff?
Wrong question.
What is *right* with GNU?
I mean - why hate it? :)
Because it is a disease.
Peace
uriel
the retards out there...
uriel
Awesome, this should be enough to run werc. Thanks!
uriel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Anselm R Garbegarb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there,
I just released 9base-4, which can be downloaded from:
http://dl.suckless.org/tools/9base-4.tar.gz
It includes some new commands such as troff, mk
.
We see it with new Plan 9 users *all the time*.
uriel
In any case, you
don't need to write that code yourself - it's in suckless wiki.
nobody
uses it, unless you want to run some crap linux software with
linuxemu.
uriel
I wonder why... I'll revisit it tonight (or tomorrow night) if running
Plan9 Xless is indeed possible.
Have retards taken over suckless?
Or is this all some big sick joke?
uriel
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:31 AM, thomasthomas@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/2 hessi...@hessiess.com:
I recommend type setting using HTML.
I second this: HTML, then a conversion to pdf.
HTML is useless for document
In theory you should be able to use the instructions at:
http://unix-kb.cat-v.org/GTK_2/
Any further contributions about hot to provide sane Unix-like
keybindings to more apps and environments are very welcome.
Peace
uriel
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Ryan Zhenggne...@gmail.com wrote:
I've
Troff works great for generating slides.
uriel
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Kris Maglionemaglion...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 09:36:23PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
P.S. (especially @Uriel ;-) ): Please don't blame me because the
software I used for the slides ... I know
, but development seems
to be fast and they are moving forward quite fast.
Peace
uriel
[1]: Of course there can't be a sane web browser, but a different coat
of paint on top of webkit is not going to be any saner than Chrome,
and unlike all this so called sane browsers at least Chrome mostly
got
', they are a disease and anyone
found using such a FS should be exterminated on the spot to keep the
disease from spreading.
uriel
I've been assured that wmii and libixp build fine on
Darwin/OS-X's case-insensitive HFS. The problem with CIFS, I think, is
mandatory file locking, which among other things
only hope for a minimally sane web rendering engine
is http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
The latest released version is not too useful, but development seems
to be fast and they are moving forward quite fast.
Peace
uriel
[1]: Of course there can't be a sane web browser, but a different coat
out of the box and that's definitely a more suckless version of
document rendering / scripting than HTML + Javascript.
You better kick yourself out of this universe. WTF are you smoking?
uriel
I got the idea then that it may not be a bad idea to develop a suckless
document rendering
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
ruled by a religion
I thought you were a 'utopian philosopher'? Everyone knows that in a utopia
there would be no religion.
No religion? What is wrong with *my
I have always used troff to generate really nice 4:3 landscape slides,
but that is on Plan 9, I should put my macros and some examples in
http://repo.cat-v.org but it really is not rocket science.
uriel
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:53 PM, markus schnalkemei...@marmaro.de wrote:
[2009-09-07 01:27
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Pinocchiocchino...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:26:05 -0700, frederic fduboi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:51:46 +0200, Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Pinocchiocchino...@gmail.com wrote:
A few months
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Anselm R Garbegarb...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/8 Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, markus schnalkemei...@marmaro.de wrote:
The point is: It is simply not possible to have sane web browsers. But
you both come to bad results IMO.
Uriel
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Anselm R Garbegarb...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/8 Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Anselm R Garbegarb...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is clear that the existing web stack can't be implemented
in a less sucking way.
This is ridiculous
that if it
was not for my judgement you would still be programming in C++, using
auto*hell, praising Object Oriented programming as the greatest
invention in the history of programming, and god only knows what else.
Peace
uriel
Kind regards,
Anselm
is not for sissies.
Oh, and see Wolfgang Pauli's quote here: http://quotes.cat-v.org/
uriel
P.S.: And who is polluting the pristine snow of this list now? Go pee
somewhere else, there is enough sewage around here as it is.
/Don
Kind regards,
Anselm
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Aurélien Aptelaurelien.ap...@gmail.com wrote:
I also like Uriel's madness. His rants are always exaggerated, and as
said Anselm you don't have to take them too seriously.
He's just a cute troll (and you know the saying).
Uriel, the suckless Tough Guy, filled
Ok, I put this together in five min while sleep deprived, but I think
it still should be enough to get you started:
http://repo.cat-v.org/troff-slider/
Enjoy.
uriel
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Charlie Kestercorky1...@comcast.net wrote:
On Tue 08 Sep 2009 at 10:38:26 PDT markus schnalke
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Kurt H Maierkarmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Donald Allendonaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless and until that happens, I want no part of this.
can you maybe whine about uriel on livejournal or somewhere else that
doesn't require me
if this makes it more clear, it is 5am and I'm barely awake,
ask if it is still confusing.
Peace
uriel
--
Pinocchio
It supports UTF-8, that is all anyone sane should need.
uriel
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Wu, Yue vano...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:35:20 +0800, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de
wrote:
[2009-09-09 04:59] Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com
Ok, I put this together in five min
replace clear thinking about what the real
problem you are trying to solve is.
uriel
Hope that made some sense..
from OO and there is no other scapegoat to blame.
Peace
uriel
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote:
[2009-09-13 23:34] Amit Uttamchandani atu13...@csun.edu
Just curious as to the arguments against OO programming. All the classes
I have taken in uni always
to it, Uriel!)
Does anyone nowadays still remember the lessons of the structured
programming paradigm that preceded OOD? It's amazing how well the Unix
approach exemplifies the structured design virtues of modularity,
decoupling, cohesion, etc. The OO stuff *tries* to achieve the same
virtuosity
to it, Uriel!)
Damn! ;)
Another extremely obscure technique I'm sure nobody has heard of is
using... *gasp* libraries! 9P and pipes have their places are great in
many cases, but for low level stuff, it is hard to beat the function
call.
But libraries also need to follow the Unix principles of doing only
and cleverly hang themselves with them.
Peace
uriel
If surf is going to ever be useful for anything it must include *by
default* something like NoScript.
uriel
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Anders Andersson pipat...@gmail.com wrote:
You could stop using websites that obfuscates and breaks the web by
covering up everything in javascript
What every browser should come with built in by default is something
like NoScript.
uriel
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:49 AM, joshua shaw shaw.j...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm tired of flash everywhere. Here's a patch with compile time
option to disable plugins and keybindings to toggle plugins during
is great for some kinds of programs and some kinds of
languages, but it is important to remember that type systems are a
feature that has big complexity costs on the language and is not
always worth it.
uriel
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:54 AM, carmen _...@whats-your.name wrote:
Also, I would like
to be the best way to
make code easier to change later on!
Peace
uriel
- but the extra work and the extra code costs
you something. In my experience, focusing on good design is generally
enough:
it allows you to make the requested changes in an acceptable time.
Also, I would like to know
broken gnome is redundant.
uriel
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Zhengning Jiang zhengto...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
since i started to use dwm 4.7 from time to time, i am having big problems
with my gnome desktop.
After about 1 - 2 minutes of usage (gnome ), freshly started apps loose
Somebody thought breaking gnome was a problem rather than a feature,
my comment was *not* universally redundant.
Remember that suckless now seems to be full of people that think HTML
is a good typesetting system.
uriel
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, sta...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote:
* Kris
Can we setup a filter for dev@suckless.org that sends any html email
to /dev/null, and autoreplies with Fuck off moron. to the author of
any such email?
Thanks
uriel
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote:
Hi Илья,
2009/9/22 Илья Илембитов ilembi...@yandex.ru
will focus on cleaning up aftereffects of the gtk
port.
I hope that means he is porting it to Tk.
uriel
is somehow acceptable.
uriel
In mutt, it is as easy as:
# Plain as default:
message-hook ~A 'alternative_order text/plain'
There is a procmail recipe out there that will strip html email out...
Don
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com wrote:
Can we setup
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Antoni Grzymala ant...@chopin.edu.pl wrote:
Kurt H Maier dixit (2009-09-22, 16:54):
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that means he is porting it to Tk.
god knows I'm not in love with gtk, but Tk is a pretty big
Funny, I was using three monitors years before Xinerama was even
invented, I wonder how was that possible?
Tuomov is right on this one, Xinerama sucks:
http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/b/2008/the_downfall_of_x/
uriel
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM, miles groman miles.gro...@gmail.com wrote:
Xinerama
.
X sucks even more I think, creating documents should be separate from
viewing documents. My vote goes for console.
At least X is not based on emulating the behavior of hardware that was
already obsolete forty years ago.
uriel
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Amit Uttamchandani atu13...@csun.edu wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:30:15AM +0200, Uriel wrote:
People that bash Tk have never used it.
Tk is shit, but compared to GTK, Qt and the rest, Tk at least is
odorless and tasteless shit.
uriel
What bout FLTK
Just FYI, p9p's troff does UTF-8 quite well too: http://plan9.us
Peace
uriel
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:00 PM, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote:
[2009-09-22 18:39] Илья Илембитов ilembi...@yandex.ru
I am looking for a lightweight solution to create rich formatted content in
any
MS
in a couple of commands).
Keep up the good work
uriel
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Kris Maglione maglion...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
wmii 3.9a2 is now available. Changes since 3.9a1:
* A few bugs have been fixed.
* wmii.pdf is now installed with wmii.
* There is no more magic involved
, werc 1.2.2 has been released including a fix for a
bug reported by arg too, thanks!
http://werc.cat-v.org/news/2009/09/23/werc-1.2.2/
Enjoy
uriel
!
uriel -- happily using p9p' sed(1) and the same sane regexps with all his tools.
--
Kris Maglione
For the time being, programming is a consumer job, assembly line
coding is the norm, and what little exciting stuff is being performed
is not going to make it compared to the mass-marketed crap
If you think xinerama sucks, randr sucks even more.
http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/b/2008/the_downfall_of_x/
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM, James PIC james...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Is there any dwm-like WM that supports multiple screens but uses randr
instead of the Xinerama infamny? I think
long without switching to the
standard US kb layout (and that was over ten years ago).
Btw, does surf support the standard Unix text editing keybindings[1]?
uriel
[1]: http://unix-kb.cat-v.org/
Thanks :)
--pancake
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Kris Maglione maglion...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 07:54:02PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
If you think xinerama sucks, randr sucks even more.
http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/b/2008/the_downfall_of_x/
Tuomo is a crack pot.
Perhaps, but what
How many fucking times I have to explain that: Unix shortcuts are
*NOT* Emacs shortcuts? God fucking heavens.
uriel
2009/10/17 Tadeusz Sośnierz tadzi...@gmail.com:
Btw, does surf support the standard Unix text editing keybindings[1]?
Its not about surf, this is a task for gtk textentry
modifications?
I might be retarded, but I don't waste my life 'customizing' my
fucking keyboard layout, I use the *standard* layout that works well
for the task it is designed for: input text and code.
Asking for apps to be changed because you use a braindead keyboard
layout is just crazy.
uriel
I told them, they banned me from their irc server. They are beyond all hope.
uriel
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy
n0nse...@n0nsense.xinutec.org wrote:
I think you should tell the GTK-people about this, not us.
Regards
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 07:22:32PM +0200, Uriel wrote
the misfortune of being forced to use any such app.)
Thanks
uriel
--
Kris Maglione
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity.
--Hanlon's razor
to be some kind of sick prank or
troll, I can't imagine any other explanation.
I can't conceive any kind of torture painful enough for somebody
proposing we use HTML to store any kind of valuable structured data,
it is off the charts.
uriel
--
# Kurt H Maier
than UTF-8 need to be lockedup and
have the key thrown into a black hole, enough harm has been done
already by retarded encodings.
uriel
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Kris Maglione maglion...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 03:08:22AM +0200, Uriel wrote:
Hmmm... Just curious, but what exactly is possible now? I checked the
attached file, but the relevant lines seemed to be the same that I had
in: http://unix-kb.cat
in some time.
uriel
P.S.: I recently converted werc from XHTML to HTML5, and it was clear
improvement, much less verbose crap, much more clear and concise
markup.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Tor Aqissiaq
toraqiss...@googlemail.com wrote:
XHTML, parsed using an XML parser is very
!
uriel
Kind regards,
Anselm
for word processing is irrelevant to any
person that is not suffering from bovine spongiform encephalopathy
uriel
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote:
2009/10/18 Tor Aqissiaq toraqiss...@googlemail.com:
What is wrong with XHTML? Are you implying that HTML
in English are not worth communicating with.
uriel
Then stop using fcgi, I use cgi for http://hg.cat-v.org and never had
any problems.
uriel
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote:
Hi,
that issue is fixed. The mercurial wsgi/fcgi server code seems to
contain bugs, it seems to hang every 8-10 weeks, I
Surf should *not* handle downloads or display source, this are clearly
and obviously best handled by external tools and there is zero reason
for them to be part of any browser.
uriel
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Enno Boland (Gottox) got...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I'm going to release 0.3
obnoxious
put it in a LICENSE file at the root of the project.
That is what I do for all my code, it is short, simple, and works no
matter how retarded the laws are in your country.
uriel
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:40 PM, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote:
Dwm, surf, and probably more
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Anselm R Garbe ans...@garbe.us wrote:
2009/10/21 Uriel lost.gob...@gmail.com:
Surf should *not* handle downloads or display source, this are clearly
and obviously best handled by external tools and there is zero reason
for them to be part of any browser.
I
)
resources. This is another reason why I still think building surf on
top of the chromium infrastructure is a much better idea than using
webkit directly.
uriel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jessta jes...@gmail.com wrote:
I quite like the idea of a http session manager, that holds session
data
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote:
On Sat 24 Oct 2009 at 12:35:36 PDT Uriel wrote:
writing an http client that will handle all the crap out there is
*really* hard
Why is this the goal?
Why, when I want to browse a sane website like suckless.org
screen,
it will look just as pretty and be considerably less painful.
uriel
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ammar James lone.no...@gmail.com wrote:
All you people who are against transparency are like all those BSD
folk on Freenode who troll you for wanting a colorized ls output.
Unbelievable.
a sane terminal should be able to
simply and elegantly replace xmessage. (In Plan 9 rio windows are used
to display text for example during the installer, a cool thing is that
you can actually dynamically update the text in another window from a
script.)
uriel
existing programs, why don't you use the existing programs?
Reading from stdin is a basic and fundamental Unix design, and should
be applied where it makes sense, I think it makes quite a bit of sense
here.
uriel
, it's still a terminal
emulator.
That the concept of 'pty' still exists in the year 2009 is quite
fucking amazing. I'm surprised we don't carry punchcards around
anymore.
uriel
of this discussion it really makes me wonder why
I'm still subscribed to this mailing list.
There is no law that requires you to read every post sent to a maling
list. Also, I'm sure no matter how retarded your mail client is, it
has a delete function.
uriel
disclaimers, all Java software should include the following warranty:
http://marvin.cat-v.org/warranty
uriel
Jack J. Woehr # «'I know what it means well enough, when I find
http://www.well.com/~jax # a thing,' said the Duck: 'it's generally a frog
or
http://www.softwoehr.com
editing files over
slow connections.
As much as I hate curses, I think the idea of having a curses
interface for the sam protocol would be interesting and perhaps even
useful, sam -d is a bit 'hardcore', and sadly rio terminals are not as
prevalent as one would like...
uriel
--
Kris Maglione
Plenty
for a
suckless project.
uriel
I don't plan to write a ncurses frontend at the moment,
but shouldn't be hard to do. (yeah I suck ;) but the gtk gui will
be keyboard friendly. I'm not sure how it will work with large
email boxes, but the mails can be automatically tagged to get reduced
views of the whole
That quote has been at http://quotes.cat-v.org/ for a long time (it
used to be in http://quotes.cat-v.org/programming/ but it is universal
enough that i put it with the other non-programming quotes).
This also relates to one of the most famous StrunkWhite rules.
uriel
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10
has two quite independent
implementations in good shape, can't say the same of C++ (where all
implementations suck, by design).
uriel
but I wouldn't mind
trying it out to see what it's like.
garbage collector), rob said he would like somebody
to try building a kernel in Go, this would be fun, and might even
produce something quite useful.
Enjoy, and if you care about the sanity of the software industry,
learn to love Go.
uriel
P.S.:
And I found a bunch of people that
are not going
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