Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-04 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-08-03 16:30] Joe joebsulli...@gmail.com [08/03/10] @11:28AM PDT, mei...@marmaro.de wrote: [2010-08-03 10:14] Joe joebsulli...@gmail.com NAME ed - text editor SYNOPSIS ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] It should be: ed [-] [file] I concur. fwd:

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
Luxuries like syntax coloring would be nice but really not critical. Would you like reading a book with all adjectives bolded and nouns italicized? You may want to take a look at ALGOL 68. I hadn't thought of it like that before. Good point. Excuse me while I also remove indentation from my

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Ransom
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:20:39 -0700 Wolf Tivy wti...@my.bcit.ca wrote: Excuse me while I also remove indentation from my my code. Would you indent your prose? http://google.com/search?q=sense-lining Robert Ransom signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Joseph Xu
: Monday, August 2, 2010 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm To: dev@suckless.org Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui and have to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to connect the gui to a remote host via ssh to edit files over a slow connection

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread hiro
Fortune worthy: X doesn't break that often for me. --Joseph Xu, 8/3/10

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Uriel
- From: Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com Date: Monday, August 2, 2010 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm To: dev@suckless.org Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui and have to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to connect the gui

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Ransom
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:01:24 +0200 Uriel ur...@berlinblue.org wrote: Anyone that considers for even one second to use nano should be taken out and shot on the spot. It's not so bad if you build it with the --disable-wrapping-as-root configure option and only use it as root. In case you're

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:01:24 +0200 Uriel ur...@berlinblue.org wrote: Anyone that considers for even one second to use nano should be taken out and shot on the spot. It's not so bad if you build it with the

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 12:20:39AM -0700, Wolf Tivy wrote: I hadn't thought of it like that before. Good point. Excuse me while I also remove indentation from my my code. Would you indent your prose? What nonsense have I been practicing? I do indent my prose, by using paragraphs. Thanks.

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 3 August 2010 09:50, Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com wrote: Very few people use sam to begin with, even fewer would like the curses interface. I'm guessing no more than 20 people. The best reason not to write a program ever: nobody is using it yet. Usually I'll have acme always running

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 3 August 2010 17:43, Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com wrote: I said I'm guessing no more than 20 people will find it useful if it was written. I think in this case samterm is more important than sam itself when it comes to attracting users. Few will convert to using sam if it is ugly and

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
Yes, indeed. Both acme and samterm ship with their very own window manager, so you can fullscreen acme in rio and pretend you're using wmii. And samterm is even worse: a stacking window manager within a stacking window manager (so you can stack while you stack). There is a good reason why

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread markus schnalke
[2010-08-03 10:14] Joe joebsulli...@gmail.com ED(1)ED(1) NAME ed - text editor SYNOPSIS ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] It should be: ed [-] [file] meillo

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread hiro
ED(1) ED(1) NAME ed - text editor SYNOPSIS ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] DESCRIPTION ed is a line-oriented text editor. It is used to create, display, mod- ify and otherwise manipulate text files. WARNING Everyone involved in the development of

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Evan Gates
So on that note, it looks like curses is the way to go (as has been previously suggested). Then the issue is how closely our curses samterm would resemble bitmap samterm. Considering all the clicky menus and scrollbars and such, it may be best for the curses interface to be a totally

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Joe
[08/03/10] @11:28AM PDT, mei...@marmaro.de wrote: [2010-08-03 10:14] Joe joebsulli...@gmail.com NAME ed - text editor SYNOPSIS ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file] It should be: ed [-] [file] I concur. fwd: sj...@apple.com. My only other choice is 9 man ed:

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 04:29:34PM -0700, Wolf Tivy wrote: My current idea is just to have the screen displaying the file (where?) with dot highlighted. A few lines at the bottom would have the command line, maybe it would dynamically adjust for multiline commands, I dunno. You could cursor

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-03 Thread Wolf Tivy
Sounds like vi. except with a clean command set and less legacy baggage.

[dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Wolf Tivy
I noticed there is a project for a samterm on the project ideas page. Has anyone started on this? It seems like a really good idea. I guess ideally it would be usable without X (in text mode) but would still keep the nice view and selection interface. Luxuries like syntax coloring would be nice

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Joseph Xu
Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui and have to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to connect the gui to a remote host via ssh to edit files over a slow connection. I've even done this with an old Windows port of sam running locally and a remote

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Joseph Xu
On 8/2/2010 6:15 PM, Wolf Tivy wrote: I noticed there is a project for a samterm on the project ideas page. Has anyone started on this? It seems like a really good idea. I guess ideally it would be usable without X (in text mode) but would still keep the nice view and selection interface.

Re: [dev] curses samterm

2010-08-02 Thread Wolf Tivy
, 2010 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [dev] curses samterm To: dev@suckless.org Under what circumstance would you not be able to run sam's gui and have to resort to a curses interface? sam already provides a way to connect the gui to a remote host via ssh to edit files over a slow connection