Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Jochen Kemnade
Am 22.05.2014 21:30, schrieb Andreas Andreou: > Andreas Andreou: +1 (binding) Phew, thanks, that makes it easier. :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Andreas Andreou
Andreas Andreou: +1 (binding) On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > Right, that's the principle but not a strict requirement. I don't want us > to get stuck with procedural issues. Voting is supposed to help us with > coding, not prevent it. We don't vote on all code changes a

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Right, that's the principle but not a strict requirement. I don't want us to get stuck with procedural issues. Voting is supposed to help us with coding, not prevent it. We don't vote on all code changes and in this case, we wanted to ask the community's opinion and it looks we have it. We can go b

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 22 May 2014 15:58:09 -0300, Jochen Kemnade wrote: I thought that only PMC members can cast binding votes, That's correct. so, if none of the others vote +1, the vote will eventually fail? I guess lazy consensus apply here. If I'm correct, the answer is no, it won't fail. From

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Jochen Kemnade
I thought that only PMC members can cast binding votes, so, if none of the others vote +1, the vote will eventually fail?

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Kalle Korhonen
To get on with this, Jochen please change your vote to binding and close the vote as successful. We don't want to be paralyzed by non-voting when there are no votes against. Kalle On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding) > > > On Wed, May 2

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-22 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 (binding) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Ulrich Stärk: +0 (binding) > > For the same reasons as stated before. > > On 2014-05-18 18:29, Jochen Kemnade wrote: > > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with > Java 5 for

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-21 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Ulrich Stärk: +0 (binding) For the same reasons as stated before. On 2014-05-18 18:29, Jochen Kemnade wrote: > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java 5 > for the upcoming > 5.4 release. Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. While requiring Java 6 would > not br

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-20 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo: +1 (binding) Again, I only see a Java 8 T5.5 if it's a separate JAR. -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer http://machina.com.br - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-20 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Can other PMC members please weigh in here. Jochen, no reason to close the vote till you have a binding majority decision either way. Kalle On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Kristian Marinkovic < kristian.marinko...@gmail.com> wrote: > Kristian Mairnkovic: +1 (non-binding) > > i don't see any re

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-19 Thread Kristian Marinkovic
Kristian Mairnkovic: +1 (non-binding) i don't see any reason not to raise the minimun requirement to 1.6. i've to admit most of my Tapestry apps run on Java 1.6. anyways. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Bob Harner wrote: > Bob Harner: +1 (non-binding) > On May 18, 2014 1:05 PM, "Jochen Kemnad

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-19 Thread Bob Harner
Bob Harner: +1 (non-binding) On May 18, 2014 1:05 PM, "Jochen Kemnade" wrote: > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with > Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. > Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. > While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-19 Thread Massimo Lusetti
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Jochen Kemnade wrote: There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with > Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. > Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. > While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be > some libraries that

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-19 Thread Lance Java
Lance Semmens +0 (non-binding) I can't really see much benefit but I won't stand in the way. On 18 May 2014 18:05, "Jochen Kemnade" wrote: > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with > Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. > Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. > While

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-18 Thread Andreas Ernst
Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding) Am 18.05.14 18:29, schrieb Jochen Kemnade: There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some l

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-18 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Kalle Korhonen: +1 (non-binding) On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Jochen Kemnade wrote: > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with > Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. > Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. > While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits,

[VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4 (2nd attempt)

2014-05-18 Thread Jochen Kemnade
There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5. Also, we'd spa

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-17 Thread Jochen Kemnade
The cancelation mail hit the list before the actual voting call. The timestamps were messed up too. So it's canceled and a new vote is yet to be started. I'll wait until I'm sure that the ASF mail issues are sorted out. Am 18.05.2014 00:45 schrieb "Howard Lewis Ship" : > Between VOTE and VOTE CANC

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-17 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
Between VOTE and VOTE CANCELED, not sure what's going any any more. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Dmitry Gusev wrote: > Dmitry Gusev: +1 (non-binding) > > > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Andreas Ernst wrote: > > > Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding) > > > > Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-17 Thread Dmitry Gusev
Dmitry Gusev: +1 (non-binding) On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Andreas Ernst wrote: > Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding) > > Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade: > > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with >> Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. >> Java 5 is

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-17 Thread Andreas Ernst
Andreas Ernst: +1 (non-binding) Am 15.05.14 15:14, schrieb Jochen Kemnade: There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some l

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-16 Thread Lenny Primak
Lenny Primak: +1 (non-binding) A huge +1 for 5.3.8 release that supports Java 8. > On May 16, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Bob Harner wrote: > > Bob Harner: +1 (non-binding) > > (As an aside, it's been over a year since our last 5.3.x release. It > might be good to put out a 5.3.8 release soon, which wi

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-16 Thread françois facon
François Facon: +1 (non-binding) 2014-05-15 15:14 GMT+02:00 Jochen Kemnade : > There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with > Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. > Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. > While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there migh

[VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-16 Thread Jochen Kemnade
There have been discussions whether we want to keep compatibility with Java 5 for the upcoming 5.4 release. Java 5 is EOSL since October 2009. While requiring Java 6 would not bring us much benefits, there might be some libraries that we cannot use because they do not support Java 5. Also, we'd

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-16 Thread Bob Harner
Bob Harner: +1 (non-binding) (As an aside, it's been over a year since our last 5.3.x release. It might be good to put out a 5.3.8 release soon, which will remain Java 5 compatible, of course.) On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Jochen Kemnade wrote: > There have been discussions whether we want t

Re: [VOTE] Drop support for Java 5 in Tapestry 5.4

2014-05-16 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Ulrich Stärk: +0 (binding) As I said earlier, I don't see the benefit in upgrading to 'just' 1.6 right now, even if it means we could use newer versions of our dependencies. If you want to do it anyway I won't stand in your way. Cheers, Uli On 2014-05-15 15:14, Jochen Kemnade wrote: > There h