[GitHub] tomcat issue #79: remove placeholders from introduction doc

2017-10-31 Thread ChristopherSchultz
Github user ChristopherSchultz commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/79
  
References:

https://apacheconna2015.sched.com/event/2P6d/rtfm-write-a-better-fm-rich-bowen-apache-software-foundation

http://feathercast.apache.org/podcasts/ApacheConNA2015/Monday/Community/Monday_Community_04%20-%20Rich%20Bowen%20-%20RTFM%20-%20Write%20a%20Better%20FM.mp3
http://drbacchus.com/rtfm-write-a-better-fm-recording/



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[GitHub] tomcat issue #79: remove placeholders from introduction doc

2017-10-31 Thread ChristopherSchultz
Github user ChristopherSchultz commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/79
  
A few years ago, Rich Bowen gave a talk @ ApacheCon about documentation and 
communities. He used Python as an example of a community where the Monty Python 
jokes are so pervasive, it appears that they have become the focus of the 
documentation instead of the actual subject (the code, etc.).

He suggested that humor, while intended to be fun, lighthearted, etc. often 
comes across as mean-spirited or condescending, and/or introduces confusion 
especially to those who do not understand (a) the language (e.g. English), (b) 
that they are in fact jokes or (c) the content of the jokes (e.g. unfamiliar 
with Monty Python).

Basically, this kind of thing doesn't have a place in high-quality 
documentation.

This example is relatively benign, but there are probably other places 
where the humor is at least distracting if not worse.


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[GitHub] tomcat issue #79: remove placeholders from introduction doc

2017-10-19 Thread pmcelhaney
Github user pmcelhaney commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/79
  
IMHO the humor doesn’t work here. It comes across as condescending. 
It’s *definitely* not helpful. 


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[GitHub] tomcat issue #79: remove placeholders from introduction doc

2017-10-19 Thread markt-asf
Github user markt-asf commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/79
  
We could pull the entries and add "That's it!" after the list.


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[GitHub] tomcat issue #79: remove placeholders from introduction doc

2017-10-19 Thread csutherl
Github user csutherl commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/79
  
This is a least the fourth time I've seen someone asking about this. Should 
we make a note or use a sarcasm font or something? :) It's funny, but seems to 
be confusing new folks.


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[GitHub] tomcat issue #79: remove placeholders from introduction doc

2017-10-19 Thread markt-asf
Github user markt-asf commented on the issue:

https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pull/79
  
Those aren't placeholders. It is intentional content. I believe they are 
meant to be a lighthearted way of indicating that 'Context' is the only term 
that needs introducing.


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