[jira] [Commented] (VELTOOLS-184) EscapeTool: add a json method, or a javascript method with a second parameter

2020-02-14 Thread Nathan Bubna (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-184?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17037238#comment-17037238 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELTOOLS-184: --- LOL. Sorry, didn't read carefully. I get it now

[jira] [Commented] (VELTOOLS-184) EscapeTool: add a json method, or a javascript method with a second parameter

2020-02-14 Thread Nathan Bubna (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-184?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17037112#comment-17037112 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELTOOLS-184: --- [https://www.json.org/json-en.html] Only double quoted

Re: Problems with commons-beanutils-1.9.4

2020-02-07 Thread Nathan Bubna
Or maybe even just put a 3.x compatible version of the Struts tools up on github as an independent fork. Probably easier than talking the Struts devs into it. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:10 PM Claude Brisson wrote: > On 20-02-06 16 h 15, Christopher Schultz wrote: > > > 3.0 completely dropped

Re: Problems with commons-beanutils-1.9.4

2020-02-07 Thread Nathan Bubna
er if just dropping the method is enough: anyone with an old > format configuration will have trouble identifying the cause of the > problem. Isn't there any way to tweak beanutils into binding class= to > setClassname() ? > > >Claude > > On 20-02-05 19 h 09, Nathan Bubna wr

Re: Problems with commons-beanutils-1.9.4

2020-02-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
6 > > Nathan, > > (Apologies for the cross-post, but this is a very dev-y response. > After this message in the thread, I will reply only on the dev@ list). > > On 2/5/20 1:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote: > > Thanks for drilling into that, Chris! I was reading, but have no > &g

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC6 test build available

2020-01-31 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 Looks good to me. Thanks, Claude. Hope we can get this out before the next board report is due. :) On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 5:05 PM Claude Brisson wrote: > The test build of Velocity Engine 2.2 RC6 is available. > > No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of > Velocity

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

2020-01-16 Thread Nathan Bubna
2020 at 5:31 PM Nathan Bubna wrote: > > > > I don't have any time for dev work on Velocity these days, so it doesn't > > much matter whether i consider it or not. :) If someone wants to put in > the > > work, i won't protest. > > > My inclination,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

2020-01-15 Thread Nathan Bubna
a configuration like it was done > for other things in 2.1/2.2 ? I have to try :) > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Nathan Bubna wrote: > > > > This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7 for > > removal in 2.0 and was replaced

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.2 RC4 test build available

2020-01-14 Thread Nathan Bubna
This is a planned change. Implicit local scope was deprecated in 1.7 for removal in 2.0 and was replaced with explicit scope control objects. https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/upgrading.html#upgrading-from-velocity-16x-to-velocity-17x On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:29 AM Thomas Mortagne wrote:

Re: Velocity + Spring MVC

2019-06-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
Yeah, adopting Spring support is unlikely to be much burden and seems well worthwhile. On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 1:48 AM Claude Brisson wrote: > Hi. > > We are aware of the situation, and we were more or less expecting > someone to make such a proposal. Yes, it will benefit both communities. > >

[jira] [Commented] (VELTOOLS-180) New velocity-tools-model architecture

2019-04-29 Thread Nathan Bubna (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-180?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16829744#comment-16829744 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELTOOLS-180: --- Gah, i'm stuck in jello. Sorry, been too busy with other

[jira] [Commented] (VELTOOLS-180) New velocity-tools-model architecture

2019-04-22 Thread Nathan Bubna (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-180?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16823341#comment-16823341 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELTOOLS-180: --- Do the VTL related objects have any utility without your

Re: [VOTE] Engine 2.1 RC3 Release quality

2019-03-20 Thread Nathan Bubna
[+1] GA On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:43 PM Claude Brisson wrote: > The Velocity Engine 2.1 RC3 is available since March 15. > > Main changes: > > * Velocity Engine 2.1 now requires JDK 1.8+ > * Two more backward compatibility flags with 1.7: hyphens in > identifiers and macros literal

Re: [engine] StringEscapeUtils

2019-03-07 Thread Nathan Bubna
Hmm. I may not be the best to weigh in on this, as i never used event handlers for escaping. I always preferred the direct, explicit control of escaping via tools, and trusted myself (YMMV) not to forget escaping anywhere important. I'll definitely agree that we shouldn't shade. I'm perfectly

Re: [engine] Configuration key names refactoring proposal

2019-03-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
Seems good. No objections here. :) On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 4:23 PM Claude Brisson wrote: > 2.1 RC1 is history, 2.1 RC2 is on its way. > > Here is a proposal for the configuration keys refactoring: > > > https://velocity.apache.org/engine/devel/configuration-property-changes-in-2.1.html > >

Re: Merging VELOCITY-892

2019-02-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 Java 8 has been around plenty long On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 3:40 PM Claude Brisson wrote: > Hi all. > > The VELOCITY-892 branch contains a fix for the corresponding issue [1]. > > The purpose is to let the method arguments conversion handler manipulate > the formal arguments types as

Re: [VOTE] Velocity Tools 3.0 Release Quality

2018-10-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:43 AM Claude Brisson wrote: > The Velocity Tools 3.0 test build has been available since October 1st. > > Release notes: > > * > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-tools/3.0/release-notes.html > > Distribution: > > *

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Tools 3.0 test build availble (RC1)

2018-10-02 Thread Nathan Bubna
Thanks to both of you! On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:54 PM Michael Osipov wrote: > Am 2018-10-01 um 22:35 schrieb Claude Brisson: > > The test build of Velocity Tools 3.0 is available. > > > > No determination as to the quality ('alpha,' 'beta,' or 'GA') of > > Velocity Tools 3.0 has been made, and

[jira] [Commented] (VELTOOLS-143) LinkTool.uri() causes mailto: links to ignore parameters added using param() method

2018-09-30 Thread Nathan Bubna (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-143?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16633614#comment-16633614 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELTOOLS-143: --- I never was happy with the complexity of this tool. 30

Re: [VOTE] Release Velocity Master version 3

2018-09-23 Thread Nathan Bubna
g obvious. What exactly is this? > There doesn't seem to be anything here except a POM file. Is this a > released product or other artifact? > > Thanks, WILL > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 8:23 PM Nathan Bubna wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at

Re: [VOTE] Release Velocity Master version 3

2018-09-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 3:58 PM Michael Osipov wrote: > Hi, > > * reformatted the POM to a readible state > * Apache Parent upgraded to 21 > * added plugin management section for commonly used plugins > > Staging repo: >

Re: [tools] Running under a SecurityManager

2018-06-20 Thread Nathan Bubna
; BTW the SecurityManager is initialized at startup so one can easily > > initialize a static boolean in e.g. Velocity.java or whatever and just > > consult that rather than calling System.getSecurityManager() all the tim > > e. > > > >> I don't really understand e

Re: [tools] Running under a SecurityManager

2018-04-26 Thread Nathan Bubna
If you have some good pointers or suggestions... >> >> I don't really understand either why we're speaking of the CWD whereas >> all the VelocityView knows is the webapp root. But I may have missed >> something. >> >> >> Claude >> >> On 21/03/2018

Re: [tools] Running under a SecurityManager

2018-03-21 Thread Nathan Bubna
If we're talking 2.x, then adding a PrivilegedAction sounds better. If 3.0 (which, i think needs to happen anyway, right Claude?), then i'd agree with Michael. The auto config would be better off as something users need to explicitly turn on, not the default any longer. On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at

Re: Yet another issue cleanup

2017-12-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Michael Osipov wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have noticed that good bunch of Velocity 0 tickets have been rejected > though fix version has been set. This is confusing for me and likely > others. Any reasoning behind this? Fix version implies that

Re: JIRA permissions

2017-12-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
Ah, seems there's two of you in JIRA (or at least two guys w/your name). I'd only put the [wrong] one. :) On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think i did add you to VELOCITY also. I'll double check. > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 12:21 PM,

Re: JIRA permissions

2017-12-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
I think i did add you to VELOCITY also. I'll double check. On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> wrote: > Am 2017-12-08 um 16:00 schrieb Nathan Bubna: > >> Claude i think you should have the karma, if i'm reading things right; y

Re: JIRA permissions

2017-12-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
Claude i think you should have the karma, if i'm reading things right; you were already in the Administrators role. Michael, you are now too. If i'm wrong, do let me know. We'll figure it out. On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good idea. I'll s

Re: JIRA permissions

2017-12-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
Good idea. I'll see what i can do. On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:54 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > I don't have enough karma, but we should hear from Nathan. > > Also, I wouldn't mind being a JIRA admin on those projects... > > Claude > > > > On 08/12/2017 14:03, Michael

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Velocity Engine 2.0

2017-08-12 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Michael Osipov wrote: > Am 2017-08-09 um 12:52 schrieb Claude Brisson: > >> The Apache Velocity community is pleased to announce the release of >> Apache Velocity Engine 2.0. The release is available for download at: >> >>

Re: release is ready

2017-08-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
It's here: http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/velocity/velocity-engine-core/2.0/ But we should probably mention the new maven path in the upgrading docs. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Alex Fedotov wrote: > Maven repo does not seem to show 2.0 for the overall velocity

Re: release is ready

2017-08-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
The links all look good to me, nor can i think of anything missing at this point. On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > The maven artefact has been publish, the release is visible on apache > mirrors, and the website now shows engine 2.0 documentation. > >

Re: [VOTE] Engine 2.0 RC9 Release quality

2017-07-28 Thread Nathan Bubna
[+1] GA On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Claude Brisson wrote: > The Velocity Engine 2.0 RC9 is available. > > Main change since the RC8 is a full review of the DataSourceResourceLoader. > > Release notes: > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/velocity/velocity-eng >

Re: [VOTE] Engine 2.0 RC8 Release quality

2017-05-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > [ ] Leave at test build > [ ] Alpha > [ ] Beta > [X ] General Availability (GA) >

Re: Velocity truth

2017-02-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> wrote: > Am 2017-02-06 um 19:23 schrieb Nathan Bubna: > >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> 7) check object for a le

Re: Velocity truth

2017-02-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Michael Osipov wrote: ... > 4) check for empty objects by class: >> - return whether the collection is empty for a Collection object >> >> 5) check object for an isEmpty() method, if so return whether it >> returned false >> > > Why

Re: Velocity truth

2017-02-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > Claude, ... > > $obj returns false from getAsBoolean() (provided there is such a method) > > $obj is empty string (CharSequence w/length 0) > > $obj returns true from isEmpty() (provided there is such a

Re: Velocity truth

2017-01-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Claude Brisson <cla...@renegat.net> wrote: > On 30/01/2017 22:08, Nathan Bubna wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Claude Brisson <cla...@renegat.net> >> wrote: >> >> On 28/01/2017 20:23, Alex Fedotov wrote: >>

Re: Velocity truth

2017-01-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
false That would limit it to just checking for false or null values (presumably still including getAsBoolean, getAsString, and toString), but skipping the "empty" checks. Then the high performance move is: directive.if.emptycheck = false directive.if.tostring.nullcheck = false But the defau

Re: Velocity truth (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.0 RC6 test build available)

2017-01-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Alex Fedotov <a...@kayak.com> wrote: > >> You guys should definitely leave a way of disabling the toString() >> conversion in boolean expressions. >

Re: Velocity truth (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.0 RC6 test build available)

2017-01-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
e code above that would be a huge inefficiency. > Yes, that's part of the motive to have this lookup chain. If there's a match higher up, toString() is avoided. Big deal for maps and arrays. > > Alex > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> wrote: &g

Re: Velocity truth (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.0 RC6 test build available)

2017-01-28 Thread Nathan Bubna
Shame that i can't remember anymore all my reasons for wanting those "getAs" lookups. Wondering why getAsNumber and getAsBoolean are here too. Anyone else recall the use case? And assuming that i had good reason (that did happen sometimes ), i wonder why i pushed for bucking the "to()" convention.

[VOTE] Michael Osipov as committer

2017-01-27 Thread Nathan Bubna
Hey folks, Michael Osipov has been rigorously and vigorously reviewing the progress of Engine 2.0, with commits specific and knowledgeable to be nigh indistinguishable from code itself. He's already an ASF committer (with Maven at least, maybe Jersey too?). In any case, he knows our ways and is

Re: ApacheCon NA 2017

2017-01-04 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > All, > > I'm going to be in Miami for this year's ApacheCon. In all the years > I've been going to ApacheCons, I've never seen a single presentation on > Velocity. That probably has something to do with

Re: svn commit: r1776916 [1/2] - in /velocity/tools/trunk: ./ src/changes/ velocity-tools-assembly/ velocity-tools-assembly/src/main/assembly/ velocity-tools-examples/velocity-tools-examples-showcase/

2017-01-02 Thread Nathan Bubna
Wow. Sounds great, Claude! On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:49 AM, wrote: > Author: cbrisson > Date: Mon Jan 2 10:49:55 2017 > New Revision: 1776916 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1776916=rev > Log: > [tools] ImportTool and XmlTool reenginering, along with the addition

Re: [tool] More tools reenginering

2016-12-05 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: > I agree with Michael here, this direction is against what "pure" > Velocity is about. The generic tools shouldn't be allowed to fetch > random resources off the internet. > I'm with Claude here. Making powerful

Re: [VOTE] 2.0 Release Quality

2016-11-18 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 GA On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Greg Huber wrote: > Thanks, works great for me. > > [x] General Availability (GA) > > +1 non binding. > > > On 16 November 2016 at 11:51, Claude Brisson wrote: > > > The Velocity Engine 2.0 RC3 test build has been

Re: [tools] Tools reeng

2016-11-17 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 deprecate and refactor away. this all sounds good. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: > On 11/17/2016 12:58 PM, Claude Brisson wrote: > > There are several things I'd like to do for the tools before releasing > > them: > > > > 1) deprecate

Re: Logging configuration

2016-11-11 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 for logical names and a configurable base. On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > In fact, the logger name (well, *base* logger name) is configurable. So we > can both be happy: we can have the default base logger name be > "org.apache.velocity", as like

Re: svn commit: r1769055 - in /velocity/tools/trunk: velocity-tools-generic/ velocity-tools-generic/src/main/java/org/apache/velocity/tools/generic/ velocity-tools-generic/src/test/java/org/apache/vel

2016-11-10 Thread Nathan Bubna
ty.context.Conte > > import org.apache.velocity.tools.Scope; > > import org.apache.velocity.tools.ToolContext; > > import org.apache.velocity.tools.config.DefaultKey; > > +import org.apache.velocity.tools.config.InvalidScope; > > > > /** > > * This tool expos

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Velocity Engine 2.0 test build available

2016-11-09 Thread Nathan Bubna
Gah, really wish i had time to help. Keep up the great work, Claude! On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > Ok, I reproduced it. It happens when the method is overloaded with a > variant that takes no argument. > > Guess there will be a third release

Re: [tools] status of the velocity-tools-struts module?

2016-11-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
Yeah, JSP isn't dead yet and i'm sure it still works fine. JSP hasn't changed that much. On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > Then I'll remove it. New versions of Struts may even have their own tools > for Velocity I've never heard of. And I'm pretty sure

Re: JIRA release note?

2016-11-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
I don't see a "Releases" either. Under the "Versions" tab, maybe? I'm not sure. Wonder if Will is reading, if he doesn't see it, no one does, i think. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Claude Brisson wrote: > Hi all. > > In the process of releasing engine v2.0, I'm supposed

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release velocity-master 2

2016-10-14 Thread Nathan Bubna
he asked to go emeritus. >> >> I just checked if I had enough karma to do it myself (editing of >> private/committers/board/committee-info.txt), and it worked. >> >> So no worry, Nathan, nothing to do for you :-) >> >> Claude >> >> &

Re: [VOTE] Release velocity-master 2

2016-10-14 Thread Nathan Bubna
Uh, oh. What do i need to do here? Sorry guys, not meaning to be slacking. On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Antonio Petrelli < antonio.petre...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2016-10-14 14:56 GMT+02:00 Claude Brisson : > > > Ah, and Antonio asked to become emeritus (but the change

Re: [VOTE] Release velocity-master 2

2016-10-11 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Claude Brisson wrote: > Hi. > > Before staging the release candidate for velocity-engine, I must first > release the version 2 of velocity-master. > > It only contains a pom.xml with the list of PMCs and devs, and enumerate > the mailing

Re: Macro arguments

2016-09-13 Thread Nathan Bubna
Since you're soliciting opinions, i have to say that we should probably just fully adopt Java's call-by-sharing semantics and not bother with a configurable argument evaluation strategy for macros. I suspect that a shift to call-by-sharing would not break the 90% of macros out there. I don't have

Re: svn commit: r1758416 [1/3] - in /velocity/engine/trunk/velocity-engine-core/src: main/java/org/apache/velocity/runtime/ main/java/org/apache/velocity/runtime/parser/node/ main/java/org/apache/velo

2016-08-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
Seriously unbelievable. Did i say i'd buy you a drink should you ever come to town? Well, also, https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/53443254.jpg Of course, Mike, the window isn't closed. Until 2.0 releases, there's still time! We could argue about the default! Or if there's missing options! Or

Re: ExtendedProperties

2016-07-17 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Will Glass-Husain wrote: > I'm fine with cloning it. Why bring in all the other stuff when we just > need a simple feature. > > On Jul 17, 2016 11:27 AM, "Claude Brisson" wrote: > > > Another reenginering point I'd

Re: resource loader API change

2016-07-16 Thread Nathan Bubna
t; > On 07/16/2016 09:11 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote: > > I like ResourceReader or ResourceProvider, as i get confused when classes > > have the same name and different packages. :) But i suppose > > ResourceLoader2 in all its ugliness solves both Will's confusion and my > >

Re: resource loader API change

2016-07-16 Thread Nathan Bubna
I like ResourceReader or ResourceProvider, as i get confused when classes have the same name and different packages. :) But i suppose ResourceLoader2 in all its ugliness solves both Will's confusion and my own. Ha! But in all seriousness, you know i'm a big "them that do the work make the call"

[jira] [Commented] (VELOCITY-553) Posibility to configure ReportInvalidReferences to don't report report variables,properties and method which exist, but only have null value

2016-07-14 Thread Nathan Bubna (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-553?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15376888#comment-15376888 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELOCITY-553: --- Yes, that one i'm sure about. Strict mode should act more

[jira] [Commented] (VELOCITY-553) Posibility to configure ReportInvalidReferences to don't report report variables,properties and method which exist, but only have null value

2016-07-13 Thread Nathan Bubna (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-553?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15376262#comment-15376262 ] Nathan Bubna commented on VELOCITY-553: --- Good question. My instinct is to say yes, silent

Re: [VOTE] New site layout - Apache CMS

2016-05-16 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 You're my hero, Claude. On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Claude Brisson wrote: > Hi Folks. > > The site hasn't moved for years, and nobody really knows how to build it > (it used patched Maven plugins that were once installed somewhere on a > machine that has since

Re: site upgrade...

2016-05-09 Thread Nathan Bubna
Sounds good to me. I can't really help much though. The sad reality is that while i still have a great big soft spot for Velocity, and i'm willing to chime in here and there, i don't have the time to do any notable work. My employer no longer uses server-side templating at all, so i can't hack

Re: svn commit: r1696822 - in /velocity/tools/trunk: src/site/xdoc/ velocity-tools-struts/src/main/java/org/apache/velocity/tools/struts/ velocity-tools-view/src/main/java/org/apache/velocity/tools/vi

2015-08-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
the underlying LoggerFactory mechanism remains static). Not a big deal. Without any other objection, I'll start this drastic simplification very soon. We don't even need to keep the o.a.v.runtime.log package. And four sub-modules can disappear... Claude On 21/08/2015 17:25, Nathan Bubna wrote

Re: svn commit: r1696822 - in /velocity/tools/trunk: src/site/xdoc/ velocity-tools-struts/src/main/java/org/apache/velocity/tools/struts/ velocity-tools-view/src/main/java/org/apache/velocity/tools/vi

2015-08-21 Thread Nathan Bubna
I like simple. :) On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Claude Brisson cla...@renegat.net wrote: It looks like that with slf4j, we could keep loggers injection even in session tools, so no need to go static: As of SLF4J version 1.5.3, logger instances survive serialization. Thus, serialization

Re: Need to be added to the VELTOOLS jira admin role

2015-06-11 Thread Nathan Bubna
as well? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@gmail.com wrote: Done. Thanks :) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote: I need to be added to the VELTOOLS jira admin role (mkienenb).I'll probably end up doing work on veltools

Re: Need to be added to the VELTOOLS jira admin role

2015-06-11 Thread Nathan Bubna
I think i got them all. Tell me if i missed one. :) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu sergiu.dumit...@gmail.com wrote: Same here, and also other Velocity projects: ANAKIA DBF DVSL TEXEN VELOCITY VELOCITYSB VELTOOLS Taken from:

Re: Need to be added to the VELTOOLS jira admin role

2015-06-11 Thread Nathan Bubna
of the global DOAP scripts being messed up due to bad data in our file. I don't remember all the details, but sebb is making a big push to fix everything. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure anyone still uses Anakia, but ok. :) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4

Re: general@velocity mailing list

2015-06-09 Thread Nathan Bubna
, The Apache Velocity development team Our third and final step will be to open an INFRA ticket and ask that the general@ mailing list be removed. On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Frederick N

Re: 1.8-SNAPSHOT as version for 1.x pom.xml?

2015-06-03 Thread Nathan Bubna
When it's more work to open the issue than fix it, just fix it. :) On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think we need to open issues for trivial obviously-broken build issues like this? I'm going to guess no. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM,

Re: Fixing build issues in 1.x but not 2.x

2015-06-03 Thread Nathan Bubna
VELOCITY-862 would probably still apply to the 2.x branch, i suspect. Moving on with 1.8 sounds sensible to me. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote: I hope it's not a problem, but I'm only applying the build process fixes to the 1.x branch and not the

[RESULT] [VOTE] Mike Kienenberger as committer

2015-06-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
, May 29, 2015 at 8:20 AM Nathan Bubna nbu...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, Mike Kienenberger has been an active part of the Velocity community for at least a decade, IIRC. He is already a committer and PMC member on various ASF projects (http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#mkienenb

Re: svn commit: r1682680 - in /velocity/engine/branches/1.x/build: build.properties download.xml

2015-05-31 Thread Nathan Bubna
The 1.x branch is the head of 1.x development. Effectively, it's what could become a 1.8 version. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote: What's the 1.x branch? We should also make sure that the 1.5 patch is applied to the Velocity_1.5_BRANCH branch so

Re: svn commit: r1682680 - in /velocity/engine/branches/1.x/build: build.properties download.xml

2015-05-31 Thread Nathan Bubna
Heh. Pretty sure we don't actually need any new releases (even of the 1.5 branch) to target 1.4. In fact, i don't believe we need or want any new 1.5.x releases. We've long considered 1.5 to be flawed, with major performance regressions. Don't waste your time on it. :) On Sun, May 31, 2015 at

Re: No JIRA changes sent to a mailing list?

2015-05-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
Definitely dev@ Thanks, Sergiu! On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say dev. If you want to move discussion from an issue to the mailing list, having them sent to dev makes replying easy. Plus, people who are subscribed to commits likely only

Re: general@velocity mailing list

2015-05-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Frederick N. Brier fnbr...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good to me :). On 05/30/2015 04:11 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: And while we're at it, why have a general@apache mailing list? Something inherited from Jakarta? It's not archived or publicly visible

Re: Minimum java version for a 1.8 branch?

2015-05-29 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 For a Velocity 1.8 branch, that sounds reasonable to me. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should also upgrade the minimum java version required for Velocity if we create a 1.8 branch. [javac] warning: [options] bootstrap class

[VOTE] Mike Kienenberger as committer

2015-05-29 Thread Nathan Bubna
Hi all, Mike Kienenberger has been an active part of the Velocity community for at least a decade, IIRC. He is already a committer and PMC member on various ASF projects (http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#mkienenb). And now he's begun filing issues and patches. I figure it's easier

Re: Upgraded Commons and Velocity 2.0

2015-05-29 Thread Nathan Bubna
I've had some Maven hiccups, but it was working for me the last time i tried. If Mike wants to revive the Ant build for 1.7, i have no problem with that. I do remember the JJParserState issue when rebuilding the parser though. Always bugged me, but i never saw an easy fix. I agree that the goals

Re: Velocity 2.0 (trunk) macro synchronization

2015-03-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
inline... On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Alex Fedotov a...@kayak.com wrote: One more question. One of the other areas we making changes is around how macros are called. Right now the lookup process is fairly rigid and can be inefficient as well. Consider a couple of examples: 1. Scenario

Re: Velocity 2.0 (trunk) macro synchronization

2015-03-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
:54 AM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@gmail.com wrote: inline... On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Alex Fedotov a...@kayak.com wrote: One more question. One of the other areas we making changes is around how macros are called. Right now the lookup process is fairly rigid and can

Re: Spent time working on Velocity

2014-11-28 Thread Nathan Bubna
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: ... If all logging could be replaced by using commons-logging, then all will be well. commons-logging is just a pass-through for whatever logger is really being used... log4j, slf4j, java.util.logging,

Re: Spent time working on Velocity

2014-11-26 Thread Nathan Bubna
please post me the git repo that has the 2.x code? BTW, my middle name is Nathan :). Fred On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote: Hi Frederick! Thanks for posting this here. Currently, we have a 1.x branch that is stable and in a long-term maintenance mode and a 2.x

Re: Spent time working on Velocity

2014-09-25 Thread Nathan Bubna
Hi Frederick! Thanks for posting this here. Currently, we have a 1.x branch that is stable and in a long-term maintenance mode and a 2.x branch that is not really ready for consumption yet. To be honest, it's been so long since i worked on 2.x that i can't remember what changes we did get done (i

Re: Spent time working on Velocity

2014-09-25 Thread Nathan Bubna
-android http://www.slf4j.org/android/ project. I was not even aware of a 2.x branch, what its goals are, or what has been done. I can sign a CLA. Could you please post me the git repo that has the 2.x code? BTW, my middle name is Nathan :). Fred On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote

Re: Spent time working on Velocity

2014-09-25 Thread Nathan Bubna
think the only reason we stalled out on it was because there was a feeling that it needed some bigger feature-ish changes (e.g. improved whitespace handling). We probably should have released it regardless... On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@gmail.com wrote: I should clarify

Re: Issue changes not sent by JIRA to the dev list !

2013-11-20 Thread Nathan Bubna
I poked about in the notifications section, and it has a lot of problems, but i haven't figured out how to edit the settings. It says Will is the owner, so perhaps i lack the permissions. Will, do you know what's up here? Is this something to nag infra@ about? On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM,

Re: Issue changes not sent by JIRA to the dev list !

2013-11-20 Thread Nathan Bubna
In case anyone else can edit them, the link to the notifications settings is: https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/VELOCITY/notifications On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@gmail.com wrote: I poked about in the notifications section, and it has a lot

[PROPOSAL][REPORT] Apache Velocity - May 2013

2013-05-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
Here's my proposed report. I'll send it Thursday. --- DESCRIPTION Apache Velocity is a java template engine and related projects. RELEASES * None CURRENT ACTIVITY * Minimal COMMUNITY * We have welcomed Sergiu Dumitriu as a committer. * Activity remains low on all lists

Re: [PROPOSAL][REPORT] Apache Velocity - May 2013

2013-05-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
Dumitriu sergiu.dumit...@gmail.com wrote: Looks good. (not sure if I'm supposed to answer this or only those in the PMC...) On 05/06/2013 11:13 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote: Here's my proposed report. I'll send it Thursday. --- DESCRIPTION Apache Velocity is a java template

Re: Move the CONTRIBUTORS in the POM file?

2013-05-02 Thread Nathan Bubna
Sounds good, and yeah, if they're developers, no need to keep them in the contributor list. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu sdumit...@apache.org wrote: Hi devs, I've noticed that each subproject has a CONTRIBUTORS file with a list of names. Since Velocity is now using Maven,

[RESULT] [VOTE] Sergiu Dumitriu as comitter

2013-04-28 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1 Nathan Bubna, Claude Brisson, Geir Magnusson Jr., Will Glass-Husain Welcome, Sergiu! On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Nathan Bubna nat...@esha.com wrote: Hi all, Sergiu Dumitriu has been around for a long time (8 years, i think). He's more active on the lists and stackoverflow's Velocity

Re: GSoC 2013 Project Ideas

2013-04-24 Thread Nathan Bubna
Hi Dishara, I haven't had a lot of time to think on this, but here's a few ideas: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-253 (better whitespace handling) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-660 (changing logging to event/subscriber model)

Re: GSoC 2013 Project Ideas

2013-04-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
So far, looks like Apache's not in GSoC this year, which is weird. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Dishara Wijewardana ddwijeward...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to know whether Velocity is willing to provide any

Re: GSoC 2013 Project Ideas

2013-04-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
You're probably right, Sergiu, as usual. :) http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201304.mbox/%3C430D8021-DAFC-46B4-BF9B-B0A940D6C617%40apache.org%3E On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu sergiu.dumit...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/08/2013 05:45 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote: So

Fwd: [PROPOSAL][REPORT] Apache Velocity - February 2013

2013-02-10 Thread Nathan Bubna
DESCRIPTION Apache Velocity is a java template engine and related projects. RELEASES * None CURRENT ACTIVITY * Minimal COMMUNITY * The composition of the committers and PMC members has not changed since the last report. * Activity remains low on all lists, though Stack Overflow regularly

[PROPOSAL][REPORT] Apache Velocity - February 2013

2013-02-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
of the major sources of users and thus developers. While Velocity remains quite useful for generating text on the server, overall demand seems unlikely to rise. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Nathan Bubna nbu...@apache.org wrote: DESCRIPTION Apache Velocity is a java template engine and related

Re: [tools] Interest in (or aversion to) adding CSV escaping to EscapeTool

2013-02-08 Thread Nathan Bubna
Sounds good. Go for it! :) On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: All, I'd like to use Velocity to produce CSV files and I have a routine I've been using for years in automated reports to escape field values for CSV. Any objections to adding

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