[jira] [Commented] (VELOCITY-894) Maven central JARs don't contains debug information
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Michael Osipov commented on VELOCITY-894:
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bq. Since it's meaningful to set to true the flag, anyhow, you won't
always get a proper step by step debugging even with debug symbols.
It's good that you raised this. {{}} is really pure non-sense because
Plexus Compiler translates to {{-O}} and there is no such option with
{{javac}}. See also: https://stackoverflow.com/q/20928320/696632
Do you mind to open an issue with MCOMPILER? I will deprecate it with the next
version.
bq. What really looks like pure nonsense to me is that there isn't any related
notice in http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html or
elsewhere, if it looks so vital.
What do you expect to see? The ASF recommending to compile with debug symbols?
This is the default for {{javac}}. The guide is only about deployment and not
semantics of the binary artifact.
[~tmortagne], I am really certain that no one will really build the binaries
for a given artifact just because of debug information. This is such hassle
within an entire toolchain with a lot of dependencies.
I think, we need to make the use as easy as possible.
> Maven central JARs don't contains debug information
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> Key: VELOCITY-894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894
> Project: Velocity
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: Build
>Affects Versions: 2.0
>Reporter: Thomas Mortagne
>Priority: Major
>
> As far as I can see the JAR published on velocity-engine-core-2.0.java
> published on Maven central has been built without the debug information.
> Makes is quite a pain to understand what happen exactly when you have
> something to debug.
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[jira] [Commented] (VELOCITY-894) Maven central JARs don't contains debug information
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16499131#comment-16499131 ] Thomas Mortagne commented on VELOCITY-894: -- "vital" is a bit strong as well as "pure nonsense" :) It's indeed the first time I encounter a JAR dependency without the debug symbol (and XWiki have quite a few dependencies :)) so I was very surprised. I think the logic is more the opposite, I really doubt this optimization bring much value in practice and having the debug symbol make debugging a lot easier. bq. someone willing to have debug information can still build binaries with it Yes I could checkout the tag, modify the pom and hope that all will build fine with my version of Maven and that I will get the exact same thing but with debug symbol but I would really prefer not to ;) > Maven central JARs don't contains debug information > --- > > Key: VELOCITY-894 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894 > Project: Velocity > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Build >Affects Versions: 2.0 >Reporter: Thomas Mortagne >Priority: Major > > As far as I can see the JAR published on velocity-engine-core-2.0.java > published on Maven central has been built without the debug information. > Makes is quite a pain to understand what happen exactly when you have > something to debug. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@velocity.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@velocity.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (VELOCITY-894) Maven central JARs don't contains debug information
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16498461#comment-16498461 ] Claude Brisson commented on VELOCITY-894: - I'm sorry if I didn't respect the standard practice here. It seemed natural to me to optimize the size of binaries, and someone willing to have debug information can still build binaries with it. Since it's meaningful to set to true the flag, anyhow, you won't always get a proper step by step debugging even with debug symbols. But again, if the standard practice is to always keep the debugging symbols, then we shall ensure that the debug symbols are present for the next release. There's enough feedback for a new release, should I or someone else find the time to work on it. What really looks like pure nonsense to me is that there isn't any related notice in [http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html] or elsewhere, if it looks so vital. > Maven central JARs don't contains debug information > --- > > Key: VELOCITY-894 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894 > Project: Velocity > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Build >Affects Versions: 2.0 >Reporter: Thomas Mortagne >Priority: Major > > As far as I can see the JAR published on velocity-engine-core-2.0.java > published on Maven central has been built without the debug information. > Makes is quite a pain to understand when happen exactly when you have > something to debug. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@velocity.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@velocity.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (VELOCITY-894) Maven central JARs don't contains debug information
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16498363#comment-16498363 ] Michael Osipov commented on VELOCITY-894: - Confirmed: https://github.com/apache/velocity-engine/blob/trunk/pom.xml#L86 That's pure nonsense. > Maven central JARs don't contains debug information > --- > > Key: VELOCITY-894 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-894 > Project: Velocity > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Build >Affects Versions: 2.0 >Reporter: Thomas Mortagne >Priority: Major > > As far as I can see the JAR published on velocity-engine-core-2.0.java > published on Maven central has been built without the debug information. > Makes is quite a pain to understand when happen exactly when you have > something to debug. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@velocity.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@velocity.apache.org
