Re: Should FxA remove support for old browser integrations?

[Alex Davis]

If 46 makes the most sense from an engineering standpoint, it seems to make
a lot of sense from a metrics standpoint. We'd continue to support 98% of
active users from the last 7 days.

Questions:
- Can we easily display a message to pre-56 users to upgrade? (IIUC, we
seem to already do it in some cases)
- What quantity of work is required to remove support for old browsers? (1
engineer in 2 weeks? 4 weeks? 6 weeks?)
- I suppose that the answer of the previous question will influence this
one but... Is this work that we want/need to plan for in Q4 OKRs? In our
draft Q4 OKRs, we didn't plan to this. We thought Q1 would make sense
combined with some performance work. Do we still feel that this makes sense?


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On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Shane Tomlinson 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Ryan Kelly  wrote:
>
>
>> AFAICT, Firefox used context=fx_desktop_v1 up until Firefox 45 and our
>> switch to webchannels in this bug:
>>
>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1218022
>>
>> If then used context=fx_desktop_v2 for a while one release, when we
>> landed this bug for Firefox 46:
>>
>>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204714
>>
>> So IIUC dropping support for those two integrations would disable Fxa
>> login on Firefox 45 and earlier, which seems reasonable to me.
>>
>
> fx_desktop_v1 and fx_desktop_v2 are the two that cause the most slowdown.
> I'd also like to get rid of fx_firstrun_v1. fx_firstrun_v2 was used
> beginning with Firefox 46:
>
> https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/3851
>
>
>>
>> That said, I'll note that the fx_ios_v1 broker currently extends
>> fx_desktop_v1:
>>
>>   https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-content-server/blob/master/
>> app/scripts/models/auth_brokers/fx-ios-v1.js
>>
>> So we'll have to double-check that we don't accidentally lose test
>> coverage for iOS if we remove the desktop version.
>>
>
>
> This also needs to be considered for fx_desktop_v2=>fx_desktop_v3 and
> fx_firstrun_v1=>fx_firstrun_v2. I want to speed up development, but not
> at the expense of broken supported flows.
>
> Shane
>
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Re: Should FxA remove support for old browser integrations?

[Shane Tomlinson]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Ryan Kelly  wrote:


> AFAICT, Firefox used context=fx_desktop_v1 up until Firefox 45 and our
> switch to webchannels in this bug:
>
>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1218022
>
> If then used context=fx_desktop_v2 for a while one release, when we landed
> this bug for Firefox 46:
>
>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204714
>
> So IIUC dropping support for those two integrations would disable Fxa
> login on Firefox 45 and earlier, which seems reasonable to me.
>

fx_desktop_v1 and fx_desktop_v2 are the two that cause the most slowdown.
I'd also like to get rid of fx_firstrun_v1. fx_firstrun_v2 was used
beginning with Firefox 46:

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/3851


>
> That said, I'll note that the fx_ios_v1 broker currently extends
> fx_desktop_v1:
>
>   https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-content-server/blob/
> master/app/scripts/models/auth_brokers/fx-ios-v1.js
>
> So we'll have to double-check that we don't accidentally lose test
> coverage for iOS if we remove the desktop version.
>


This also needs to be considered for fx_desktop_v2=>fx_desktop_v3 and
fx_firstrun_v1=>fx_firstrun_v2. I want to speed up development, but not at
the expense of broken supported flows.

Shane
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FxA Web Coordination agenda for Sept 25th, 2017

[Shane Tomlinson]

*Today's Theme: Train-96 deploy, the last full week of the quarter.*

Since it's a Monday, it's the long meeting. 30 mins UX/PM, 30 mins Ops/Dev.

https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/fxa-engineering-coordination

Shane
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meeting reminder: Q3 retrospective

[Ryan Kelly]

Hi All,

It's the last Monday of Q3, which means we have a special edition of our
usual Monday meetings coming up.  We'll kick off at 12:30 Pacific with our
usual Show & Tell session, so if you've got something to share as we bring
the quarter to a close, please sign up in the etherpad:

  https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/fxa-engineering-coordination

Then at 13:00 Pacific, we'll use our standing Retrospective timeslot to
retrospect on Q3 as a whole.  We'll start by scoring the Q3 OKRs, which
should hopefully be quick and painless since we've been keeping confidence
updated throughout the quarter:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lM0XGpLcR8WXjEBYjjd7xArT66A1WiPQi-QHVaV59Ds/

Then we can dive into the what-went-well, the what-could-we-improve, and
the what-to-try-for-next-time as we set ourselves up for Q4.

See you there!

  Cheers,

Ryan
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