Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Marat Bedoev
Hello, i prefer to keep modules as simple as possible and so i’m against extra module connectors. One day you will have a module, that requires some changes in your connector, and the change in the connector will require to update all your modules. Cheers, Marat Von:

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Joscha Krug | marmalade GmbH
Hi, same for me: I also don't like them. If you have dependencies between modules go for composer or something the like. Best would be if OXID could come up with an extension in the metadata.php in which you could tell this module is based on that other module. Best regards Joscha

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Tobias Merkl
roman, what´s your reason why you would use/create an own connector? Von: Joscha Krug | marmalade GmbH k...@marmalade.demailto:k...@marmalade.de Antworten an: dev-general@lists.oxidforge.orgmailto:dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Roman Allenstein
I really don't like the use of an connector but some of my team-member argument that it's good to put all reusable extensions in one connector-module instead of putting them in every module, that we are developing. My argument against a connector is the problem with the dependencies while an

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Tobias Merkl
but what are these reusable extensions? oxid is on the may, makeing shop core slender. so atm it´s very hard to put new code into :-( the most used „helper module“ is clear temp. there is an good extension from oxid cookbook, or „moduledebug“ or „devmodules“ from oxid core developers. another

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Stefan Moises
Hi, yes, some type of dependency management is a must for the OXID module system! As a workaround, we have started a simple module managing dependencies (smx_module_deps), at the moment you can only add other module ids which your module depends on, e.g. in metadata.php you can add: *

[oxid-dev-general] Blocks save path changed in 4.8?

2014-01-21 Thread Alexander Kludt
Hi guys, from what I can see the blocks in 4.8 are now stored in modules/mymodule/views/blocks they used to be stored in modules/mymodules/out/blocks why the heck was that changed without any backward compatibility? Was this mentioned anywhere? Did I miss anything? -- best regards Alexander

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Blocks save path changed in 4.8?

2014-01-21 Thread Marat Bedoev
Hello, in oxUtilsView-_getTemplateBlock() (row 458) you can see, where OXID is looking for block templates. In general you can place your block where ever you want but you need an absolute path to it in your metadata.php If you do only have file's basename in your metadata.php, OXID will be

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Blocks save path changed in 4.8?

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Zunderer
Hi, i think it wasn’t changed, it’s still out/blocks if you specify only the filename, but it can be any folder if you specify with path from module folder. Regards, Frank Zunderer Von: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [mailto:dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] Im Auftrag

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Pros and cons for module-connectors

2014-01-21 Thread Marco Steinhaeuser
Hi everybody, glad to see this valuable discussion coming up and just talked to Ina (Head of Development) about it. She asked me to reply on behalf of herself. yes, some type of dependency management is a must for the OXID module system! This is exactly what we have in mind - just didn't make

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Blocks save path changed in 4.8?

2014-01-21 Thread Alexander Kludt
Hi, thanks for your reply - but if I just keep the old structure it won't enter the blocks into oxtplblocks. I moved them, reactivated the module - now he writes them to the table but still won't show them. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen Alexander Kludt __ Phone:

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Blocks save path changed in 4.8?

2014-01-21 Thread Marat Bedoev
Check if the patch in the oxtplblocks table is correct, cause once the blocks are copied into the database, they will not be updated if metadata changes Von: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [mailto:dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] Im Auftrag von Alexander Kludt Gesendet:

Re: [oxid-dev-general] Blocks save path changed in 4.8?

2014-01-21 Thread Alexander Kludt
Well, currently I don't use any path in my metadata file: 'blocks' = array(         array('template' = 'order_overview.tpl', 'block'='admin_order_overview_export', 'file'='admin_order_overview_export.tpl'),     array('template' = 'deliveryset_main.tpl',