Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Hoi, there are some modules/methods out there in order to force lower case letters in the URL. Apparently such a module or alteration is running. Switch it off to get back to the standard camel case URLs. If you want to have lower case characters only, use or write a module that does the re-writing properly. The most simple method (without causing DC) is most likely using the transliteration lists: A = a, etc. Have a good weekend! Marco From: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] on behalf of Manuel Reiß [manuel.re...@mediaopt.de] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:16 PM To: dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org Subject: Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL Hi Mirza, OXID generates canonical URLs to prevent duplicate content issues. So maybe your SEO guys should take a look at the code before coming up with crazy ideas :) Best, Manuel manuel.re...@mediaopt.de | www.mediaopt.de derksen mediaopt gmbh | elbestrasse 28/29 | 12045 berlin | +49 (30) 34 09 42-77 | fax-66 | Amtsgericht Charlottenburg | HRB 120935 B | ust.-id DE265886017 | geschäftsführer dipl.-ing. philipp derksen Am 19.06.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Let me explain you again... So it is not my encoder that performs strtolower...it the default behaviour...look at line #262...the ident of the url is generated by performing an strtolower...and thats why regardless if you call a url all lower case or capitalized...you get the same ident. Which calls the same page. and in Eys of Google you can have multiple URLs for the same page content. as I mentioned two URL in my previous email, two exact same url only the difference is lowercase and capitalized case...but getting the ident while decoding the url, you get the same ident...which give you same stdurl...and causes two URL but one page Thats the problem that I am facing *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Tomas Kvietkauskas tomas.kvietkaus...@nfq.com wrote: Hi Mirza, I am not sure why does your oxseodecoder perfoms strtolower and you have multiple urls for the same product, cause by default seo urls are capitalized (first uppercase letter). From my point of view and personal experience lowercase urls are better (having unique lowecased urls everywhere), but you can not extend oxSeoDecoder class, the best way to strtolower sSeoUrl in https://github.com/OXID-eSales/oxideshop_ce/blob/b-dev-ce/source/core/oxseoencoder.php#L137 but you have to hardcode here :( - Tomas On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:23, Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad ahtasha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
[oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Hi Mirza, OXID generates canonical URLs to prevent duplicate content issues. So maybe your SEO guys should take a look at the code before coming up with crazy ideas :) Best, Manuel manuel.re...@mediaopt.de mailto:manuel.re...@mediaopt.de | www.mediaopt.de http://www.mediaopt.de/ derksen mediaopt gmbh | elbestrasse 28/29 | 12045 berlin | +49 (30) 34 09 42-77 | fax-66 | Amtsgericht Charlottenburg | HRB 120935 B | ust.-id DE265886017 | geschäftsführer dipl.-ing. philipp derksen Am 19.06.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. * * * * * * *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 * * * * * * * * ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Hi Mirza, you are right: http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/community-edition/en/Wakeboarding/Wakeboards/Wakeboard-SHANE.html http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/community-edition/en/wakeboarding/wakeboards/wakeboard-shane.html But in the second place, there is set a clear canonical tag: link rel=canonical href=http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/community-edition/en/Wakeboarding/Wakeboards/Wakeboard-SHANE.html; Best! Marco From: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] on behalf of Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad [ahtasha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:37 PM To: dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org Subject: Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL Let me explain you again... So it is not my encoder that performs strtolower...it the default behaviour...look at line #262...the ident of the url is generated by performing an strtolower...and thats why regardless if you call a url all lower case or capitalized...you get the same ident. Which calls the same page. and in Eys of Google you can have multiple URLs for the same page content. as I mentioned two URL in my previous email, two exact same url only the difference is lowercase and capitalized case...but getting the ident while decoding the url, you get the same ident...which give you same stdurl...and causes two URL but one page Thats the problem that I am facing Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Tomas Kvietkauskas tomas.kvietkaus...@nfq.com wrote: Hi Mirza, I am not sure why does your oxseodecoder perfoms strtolower and you have multiple urls for the same product, cause by default seo urls are capitalized (first uppercase letter). From my point of view and personal experience lowercase urls are better (having unique lowecased urls everywhere), but you can not extend oxSeoDecoder class, the best way to strtolower sSeoUrl in https://github.com/OXID-eSales/oxideshop_ce/blob/b-dev-ce/source/core/oxseoencoder.php#L137 but you have to hardcode here :( - Tomas On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:23, Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad ahtasha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
That seems to be the perfect answer :) Thanks Manuel. *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Manuel Reiß manuel.re...@mediaopt.de wrote: Hi Mirza, OXID generates canonical URLs to prevent duplicate content issues. So maybe your SEO guys should take a look at the code before coming up with crazy ideas :) Best, Manuel manuel.re...@mediaopt.de | www.mediaopt.de derksen mediaopt gmbh | elbestrasse 28/29 | 12045 berlin | +49 (30) 34 09 42-77 | fax-66 | Amtsgericht Charlottenburg | HRB 120935 B | ust.-id DE265886017 | geschäftsführer dipl.-ing. philipp derksen Am 19.06.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing listdev-general@lists.oxidforge.orghttp://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Hi Mirza, if the canonical tag in the source code of that page is correct (that’s what I assume) then the SEO impact shouldn’t be so bad at all. Anyway it’s correct if they complain about urls with differ cases, that should not happen. In the demo shop I found the Link with uppercase letters: http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/professional-edition/Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html including an matching canonical tag: link rel=canonical href= http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/professional-edition/Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.htmlview-source:http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/professional-edition/Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html If I manually change that link to lowercase: http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/professional-edition/bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html It still loads the same page and it do not harm as this page also includes the canonical tag pointing to the correct url with the uppercase letters: link rel=canonical href= http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/professional-edition/Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.htmlview-source:http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/professional-edition/Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html Sure this should be further improved by an 301 redirect but that is kind of fine-tuning. Also you should check that all links to that page use the same case, and also all ingoing links (e.g. from partner sites or a price portal) should point to a single version of that url. Some SEO guys also recommend to only use the lowercase version because they believe people prefer to type stuff in lowercase. I am pretty sure there already solutions for such fine-tuning out there Have a look at http://exchange.oxid-esales.com/de/Marketing-und-Kampagnen/SEO/ best regards keywan Keywan Ghadami Software-Entwickler Professional Services keywan.ghad...@oxid-esales.commailto:keywan.ghad...@oxid-esales.com Fon +49 761 36889-235 Fax +49 761 36889-29 www.oxid-esales.comhttp://www.oxid-esales.com?campaign=emailsignatur/oxid-esales-comadword=OXSIG_Startseite OXID eSales AG Bertoldstraße 48 79098 Freiburg Deutschland Vorstand: Roland Fesenmayr (Vorsitzender), Dr. Marcus Klosterberg Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Michael Schlenk, Sitz: Büdingen Amtsgericht Freiburg i. Br., HRB 701648, USt-IdNr.: DE231450866 Von: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [mailto:dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] Im Auftrag von Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Juni 2015 14:38 An: dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org Betreff: Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL Let me explain you again... So it is not my encoder that performs strtolower...it the default behaviour...look at line #262...the ident of the url is generated by performing an strtolower...and thats why regardless if you call a url all lower case or capitalized...you get the same ident. Which calls the same page. and in Eys of Google you can have multiple URLs for the same page content. as I mentioned two URL in my previous email, two exact same url only the difference is lowercase and capitalized case...but getting the ident while decoding the url, you get the same ident...which give you same stdurl...and causes two URL but one page Thats the problem that I am facing Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Tomas Kvietkauskas tomas.kvietkaus...@nfq.commailto:tomas.kvietkaus...@nfq.com wrote: Hi Mirza, I am not sure why does your oxseodecoder perfoms strtolower and you have multiple urls for the same product, cause by default seo urls are capitalized (first uppercase letter). From my point of view and personal experience lowercase urls are better (having unique lowecased urls everywhere), but you can not extend oxSeoDecoder class, the best way to strtolower sSeoUrl in https://github.com/OXID-eSales/oxideshop_ce/blob/b-dev-ce/source/core/oxseoencoder.php#L137 but you have to hardcode here :( - Tomas On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:23, Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad ahtasha...@gmail.commailto:ahtasha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460tel:%2B4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
Hi, use lowercase only urls. What does your SEO Company say about that? +1 for Marco solution, no need to hack/patch oxSeoEncoder ;) On 19 Jun 2015, at 16:10, Marco Steinhaeuser marco.steinhaeu...@oxid-esales.com wrote: Hoi, there are some modules/methods out there in order to force lower case letters in the URL. Apparently such a module or alteration is running. Switch it off to get back to the standard camel case URLs. If you want to have lower case characters only, use or write a module that does the re-writing properly. The most simple method (without causing DC) is most likely using the transliteration lists: A = a, etc. Have a good weekend! Marco From: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] on behalf of Manuel Reiß [manuel.re...@mediaopt.de] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:16 PM To: dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org Subject: Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL Hi Mirza, OXID generates canonical URLs to prevent duplicate content issues. So maybe your SEO guys should take a look at the code before coming up with crazy ideas :) Best, Manuel manuel.re...@mediaopt.de | www.mediaopt.de derksen mediaopt gmbh | elbestrasse 28/29 | 12045 berlin | +49 (30) 34 09 42-77 | fax-66 | Amtsgericht Charlottenburg | HRB 120935 B | ust.-id DE265886017 | geschäftsführer dipl.-ing. philipp derksen Am 19.06.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL
yes...I see it. Thanks, *Mit freundlichen Grüßen | **Warm Regards**,* Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Marco Steinhaeuser marco.steinhaeu...@oxid-esales.com wrote: Hi Mirza, you are right: http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/community-edition/en/Wakeboarding/Wakeboards/Wakeboard-SHANE.html http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/community-edition/en/wakeboarding/wakeboards/wakeboard-shane.html But in the second place, there is set a clear canonical tag: link rel=canonical href= http://demoshop.oxid-esales.com/community-edition/en/Wakeboarding/Wakeboards/Wakeboard-SHANE.html Best! Marco From: dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org [ dev-general-boun...@lists.oxidforge.org] on behalf of Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad [ahtasha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:37 PM To: dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org Subject: Re: [oxid-dev-general] SEO URL Let me explain you again... So it is not my encoder that performs strtolower...it the default behaviour...look at line #262...the ident of the url is generated by performing an strtolower...and thats why regardless if you call a url all lower case or capitalized...you get the same ident. Which calls the same page. and in Eys of Google you can have multiple URLs for the same page content. as I mentioned two URL in my previous email, two exact same url only the difference is lowercase and capitalized case...but getting the ident while decoding the url, you get the same ident...which give you same stdurl...and causes two URL but one page Thats the problem that I am facing Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Tomas Kvietkauskas tomas.kvietkaus...@nfq.com wrote: Hi Mirza, I am not sure why does your oxseodecoder perfoms strtolower and you have multiple urls for the same product, cause by default seo urls are capitalized (first uppercase letter). From my point of view and personal experience lowercase urls are better (having unique lowecased urls everywhere), but you can not extend oxSeoDecoder class, the best way to strtolower sSeoUrl in https://github.com/OXID-eSales/oxideshop_ce/blob/b-dev-ce/source/core/oxseoencoder.php#L137 but you have to hardcode here :( - Tomas On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:23, Mirza Ahtasham Ahmad ahtasha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I have a problem, the SEO Decoder always performs a strtolower first and then gets the ident of the URL. Now the problem is that, two url came to exist. /Bekleidung/Fashion/Accessoires/Kuyichi-Lederguertel-JEVER.html /bekleidung/fashion/accessoires/kuyichi-lederguertel-jever.html my SEO guys are saying that this is bad and I have to setup only the one with lowercase and the other should have a redirect on lowercase urls. So is there any fix to that or am I thinking or doing something wrong here?? Thanks for your quick feedback. Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Warm Regards, Mirza Ahmad M +4917645387460 | Skype: ahtasham82 ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general ___ dev-general mailing list dev-general@lists.oxidforge.org http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.oxid.general
