Re: Use-case for consideration, which will be difficult post-NPAPI

2015-06-26 Thread Adam Roach
I would look over the discussion in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=988781 regarding future SC support via the WebCrypto JS APIs. I would hope that having a W3C spec for a smartcard API would encourage a common, cross-browser way to do this without plugins or addons. /a On

Re: Linked Data and a new Browser API event

2015-06-26 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Removing dev-webapi since it's (near) dead. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Benjamin Francis bfran...@mozilla.com wrote: Unless there's a really good reason not to do so, I'm going to file the bugs and look towards getting this implemented on the Browser API as soon as possible. What you

Re: Linked Data and a new Browser API event

2015-06-26 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 26 juin 2015 à 08:00, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl a écrit : What you outlined still seems like a rather giant hack to get this one thing working. Is the idea to just keep adding events for each bit of information we might need from a document? Maybe there is a way to start small.

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Kyle Huey
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Richard Barnes rbar...@mozilla.com wrote: Hey dev.platform folks, Some of us in the security engineering group have been chatting with cloud services about making an improved way to maintain state in the browser. Our use cases are things like: - Revoked

State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Richard Barnes
Hey dev.platform folks, Some of us in the security engineering group have been chatting with cloud services about making an improved way to maintain state in the browser. Our use cases are things like: - Revoked certificates (OneCRL) - HSTS / HPKP preloads We're trying to get an idea of how big

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Dave Townsend
The blocklist service also downloads about once a day On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Richard Barnes rbar...@mozilla.com wrote: If anyone has use cases in addition to the above, please let me know. Public suffix?

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Richard Barnes rbar...@mozilla.com wrote: If anyone has use cases in addition to the above, please let me know. Public suffix? Getting that updated more frequently would be good. Especially now sites like GitHub can use it to silo user data. --

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Benjamin Kelly
Tracking protection exceptions. I wrote a bug for this last night: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177641 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Kyle Huey m...@kylehuey.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Richard Barnes rbar...@mozilla.com wrote: Hey dev.platform

Re: Linked Data must die. (was: Linked Data and a new Browser API event)

2015-06-26 Thread Benjamin Francis
On 26 June 2015 at 12:58, Ted Clancy tcla...@mozilla.com wrote: My apologies for the fact that this is such an essay, but I think this has become necessary. Firefox OS 2.5 will be unveiling a new feature called Pinning The Web, and there's been some discussion about whether we should

Linked Data must die. (was: Linked Data and a new Browser API event)

2015-06-26 Thread Ted Clancy
My apologies for the fact that this is such an essay, but I think this has become necessary. Firefox OS 2.5 will be unveiling a new feature called Pinning The Web, and there's been some discussion about whether we should leverage technologies like RDFa, Microdata, JSON-LD, Open Graph, and

Re: Linked Data and a new Browser API event

2015-06-26 Thread Benjamin Francis
On 26 June 2015 at 08:29, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote: Maybe there is a way to start small. Iterate. Look at the results. And push further in the direction which appears to be meaningful. Exactly, I'm looking for a solid MVP that we can iterate on. More detailed response to Ted's

Re: Revisiting modelines in source files

2015-06-26 Thread Birunthan Mohanathas
On 18 June 2015 at 07:28, kgu...@mozilla.com wrote: 1) Comments that exceed the 80-char limit get wrapped blindly, rather than being rewrapped properly. This results in comment blocks that look like this: I sidestepped this issue by making Clang-Format ignore all comments. See bug 961541.

RE: Use-case for consideration, which will be difficult post-NPAPI

2015-06-26 Thread Alex Taylor
Adam – Thanks for that. Yes, including PC/SC in WebCrypto or another JS API would be ideal. Also hopefully FireBreath 2.0 will provide a useable cross-browser abstraction for the various new proprietary extension technologies, at which point using something like Adrian Castillo’s Smart Card

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Chris Peterson
- gfx's GPU blocklist? - Shumway's SWF whitelist On 6/26/15 10:38 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: Hey dev.platform folks, Some of us in the security engineering group have been chatting with cloud services about making an improved way to maintain state in the browser. Our use cases are things

Re: Linked Data must die. (was: Linked Data and a new Browser API event)

2015-06-26 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Benjamin Francis bfran...@mozilla.com wrote: When I look at RDFa, Microdata and JSON-LD I see formal W3C recommendations, extensive vocabularies which (at least on the surface) are agreed on by all the big search engines, and I see a clean engineering solution

Re: Announcing the Content Performance program

2015-06-26 Thread Nick Fitzgerald
From your blog post: Heavy activity in background tabs badly affects desktop Firefox’s scrolling performance1 (much worse than other browsers — we need E10S) I was under the impression that because e10s is only a single process for all content (at least right now) a background tab can still

Re: Linked Data must die. (was: Linked Data and a new Browser API event)

2015-06-26 Thread Benjamin Francis
On 26 June 2015 at 17:02, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: I would encourage you to go a little deeper... We need to judge standards on their merits I did look deeper. I read most of all the specifications and several papers on their adoption. My personal conclusion was that not only

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Gervase Markham
At last! Hallelujah! :-) On 26/06/15 10:38, Richard Barnes wrote: 1. You want every browser to have the same set of data 2. The data change relatively slowly (we are aiming for ~24hr deliveries) If anyone has use cases in addition to the above, please let me know. * The Public Suffix List.

Re: Linked Data and a new Browser API event

2015-06-26 Thread Benjamin Francis
On 26 June 2015 at 08:00, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: Is the idea to just keep adding events for each bit of information we might need from a document? That is how the Browser API works. Ben ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Announcing the Content Performance program

2015-06-26 Thread Vladan Djeric
I was under the impression that because e10s is only a single process for all content (at least right now) a background tab can still negatively affect the foreground tab. That's right, but we also tested e10s in the process-per-tab configuration Have we ever considered building something like

Re: Linked Data and a new Browser API event

2015-06-26 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Benjamin Francis bfran...@mozilla.com wrote: and JSON-LD (because it supports Gaia's more complex use cases). Hi Ben, My only concern here is that if you pin a contact, it seems to me that it would be good if the name and picture of that homescreen UI should be

Re: State synchronization - use cases?

2015-06-26 Thread Richard Barnes
Yes; that is what we currently use for OneCRL. The idea here is to make something that's more generic, in order to more easily support pushing new types of data. That said, I suppose we could envision moving the add on block list to this service if it happens. But that might not be a priority,

Announcing the Content Performance program

2015-06-26 Thread Vladan D
Aaron Klotz, Avi Halachmi and I have been studying Firefox's performance on Android Windows over the last few weeks as part of an effort to evaluate Firefox content performance and find actionable issues. We're analyzing and measuring how well Firefox scrolls pages, loads sites, and navigates

Re: Linked Data and a new Browser API event

2015-06-26 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Benjamin Francis bfran...@mozilla.com wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 08:00, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: Is the idea to just keep adding events for each bit of information we might need from a document? That is how the Browser API works. I don't