not interested or involved in.
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use. They
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rather than just local
files.
You could mark the reftest as HTTP to make it load via a server on
all platforms.
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Before I built a wall I'd ask
not particularly inclined to start yet another one.
FWIW, I've never seen much support for this change from anyone else
than Benjamin, and only in his modules the NS_ENSURE_* macros have
been effectively deprecated.
I'm happy about getting rid of NS_ENSURE_*.
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(The reality for me is that I don't use side-by-side much when
writing code, but I do when doing code reviews.)
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visually, but I've found the bracing to be
useful often enough when inserting debugging-printfs that I've come
to prefer it even though I think it's ugly and wastes space.
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What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense
reduce the time the tree is closed greatly.
more comments in line.
David
On 19/12/2013 18:48, Jason Orendorff wrote:
On dev-tech-js-engine-internals, there's been some discussion about
reviving a separate tree for JS engine development.
The tradeoffs are like any other team-specific tree.
Pro
On 19/12/2013 23:56, Jason Orendorff wrote:
On 12/19/13 4:55 PM, David Burns wrote:
On 19/12/2013 18:48, Jason Orendorff wrote:
Con:
- more work for sheriffs (mostly merges)
If mostly merges, are you suggesting there will be little traffic on
the branch or the JS team will watch the tree
these careful people spend on getting
code style right, so I guess it's probably a win.
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Generally, I like the idea.
Is it possible to write memory reporters for JS-implemented code?
Also, is it possible to write memory reporters for Chrome Worker code?
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On 12/17/13 4:57 AM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote:
So I want to propose something: if you're working on a change
issues
for the first time at this stage.)
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to this
specification, expects to produce content conforming to this
specification, and expects to use products conforming to this
specification). It's changeable until the deadline if other
feedback comes in.
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, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues
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Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
questions for anyone with some insight:
- Is this pattern always unsafe?
- Is it sometimes unsafe? (if so, when/why?)
- Should we do some cleanup and avoid things like this? (or maybe this
is an outdated concern and isn't an issue anymore?)
Cheers,
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[0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id
On Thursday 2013-12-12 16:52 -0800, David Keeler wrote:
Recently bug 539710 landed[0] to fix an unnecessary and apparently
unsafe operation:
const PRUnichar *comma = NS_LITERAL_STRING(,).get();
Curious, I did a quick search for other examples of NS_LITERAL_STRING
combined with .get
On Wednesday 2013-12-04 16:36 -0500, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:47 PM, L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org wrote:
I'd certainly hope that nearly all of the difference in size of
libxul.so is debugging info that wouldn't be present in a non-debug
build. But it's worth
...
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that we had to fix them in order to ship. But I think it's
far from saying they should be wontfixed.)
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Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
where session store is going.
Well, any change that would split sessionstore.js is going to need even
more effort in ensuring that we collect the garbage, so I believe that
this is a useful first step.
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don't have space usage number for each of these (bug 942340
should provide more insight).
If anybody feels that we are going to break one million websites (or one
million profiles), we would be interested to hear about this.
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, anyway.
That was the idea, yes.
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On 11/29/13 12:15 AM, Matthew N. wrote:
On 11/28/13, 7:15 AM, Honza Bambas wrote:
On 11/28/2013 12:56 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
As many of you know, Session Restore is something of a performance hog,
for many reasons – we have reports of. One of the reasons is that we
store so very
It seems that the 12MB reservation was aborting due to an invalid parameter.
I've filed bug 943051.
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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 9:18:02 AM
for the first time at this stage.)
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On Tuesday 2013-10-29 12:01 +0200, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Ralph Giles gi...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 2013-10-28 2:11 PM, L. David Baron wrote:
API for Media Resources 1.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-api-1.0/
...
Thus I think we can be positive about
On 11/20/13 1:09 PM, Till Schneidereit wrote:
How about logging them with console.info? That seems the right logging
level to me, and it's easy to turn off if it gets in the way.
Well, the problem is that of logging uncaught rejections. You can log
them only if you catch them.
Cheers,
David
On Monday 2013-11-18 18:44 -0500, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
On 2013-11-17 7:50 PM, L. David Baron wrote:
On Sunday 2013-11-17 16:45 -0800, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've started to work on a project in my spare time
On Tuesday 2013-11-19 17:08 +1300, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
Fortunately two static variables with the same name in the same translation
unit is an error in C++, at least with gcc.
Ah, indeed. I'd tested in C, where it wasn't an error, but I also
see an error with gcc in C++.
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between files that are/might be unified? (And could we make the
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I seem to remember that metro and desktop have a completely different
format and implementation of session restore (bug 886336). Has this been
somehow fixed?
Cheers,
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On 11/13/13 3:34 PM, Brian R. Bondy wrote:
Over the past few weeks, we've been working on Metro and Desktop shared
of these choices would change the semantics of sessionstore.js and
would alter the user experience when reopening/recovering from crash on
some sites that make good use of dynamic iframes.
I would like people's opinion on such changes or possible other
countermeasures.
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We could do that.
This might make the behavior of Firefox a little harder to predict for
web devs, though.
Cheers,
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On 11/13/13 7:38 PM, Mike de Boer wrote:
Perhaps we could take a nuanced version of this option...
Or we could not save dynamic iframes that are not visible.
…changing
Hi,
As far as I remember, thread scheduling in Firefox OS is handled by the
Linux kernel, so if you are looking for documentation, you should
probably look in that direction.
Cheers,
David
On 11/12/13 6:14 AM, saurabhlnt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi..
I am presenting on the topic Firefox OS. I
On Thursday 2013-11-07 17:37 -0800, Andreas Gal wrote:
On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org wrote:
On Thursday 2013-11-07 13:24 -0800, Andreas Gal wrote:
On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Karl Tomlinson mozn...@karlt.net wrote:
Will any MoCo developers be permitted
about identifying and backing out changes that
cause previously-passing tests to start failing intermittently.
This requires better tools for doing it.
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recent data on OS use
of Mozilla contributors who aren't paid to work on Mozilla. I'd be
very surprised if it wasn't a much higher proportion of developers
than users, though.)
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for this
purpose ? Note that I don't even know if that's possible in userland.
- do we already have a good way to measure total power usage by a
xpcshell test, perhaps by interfacing with powertop or Intel Power Gadget?
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Good point. Just accessing the battery level is rather imprecise, but
Telemetry + large numbers should help us see trends.
If we go that way, this probably doesn't deserve a new library, but
possibly a few utility functions in e.g. Telemetry or TelemetryStopwatch.
Cheers,
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On 11/5/13 4:49
be a good metric to see if other efforts are
paying off.
On 11/05/2013 07:09 AM, Ed Morley wrote:
On 05 November 2013 14:44:27, David Burns wrote:
We appear to be doing 1 backout for every 15 pushes on a rough
average[4].
I've been thinking about this some more - and I believe the ratio
interested in using it in workers.
Any thought?
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On Tuesday 2013-11-05 14:44 +, David Burns wrote:
We appear to be doing 1 backout for every 15 pushes on a rough
average[4]. This number I am sure you can all agree is far too high
especially if we think about the figures that John O'Duinn
suggests[5] for the cost of each push for running
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Yes, please do.
There's a component Session Restore.
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On 10/23/13 2:39 PM, Matthew Gertner wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:36:12 PM UTC+2, David Rajchenbach-Teller
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At the moment, there is no good way to do what you need. The only
solution I can think of would
or
objections you think Mozilla should make, please bring them up in
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Sorry, I meant flush() (lower-case), aka PR_Sync.
On Fri Oct 18 16:11:43 2013, Neil wrote:
Are we looking at the same stream? Finish() calls Flush() because
otherwise Close() discards the file.
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should make debugging async code much easier.
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I'd be happy if we could progressively kill FileUtils.jsm and make
nsIFile [noscript]. Don't know if this qualifies as platform feature,
though.
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Don't hesitate to ping me when it's time.
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On 10/10/13 12:04 AM, Jason Orendorff wrote:
On 10/9/13 12:56 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
I am interested, although my buglist is rather full. What kind of help
would be useful?
When it's time, we'll need to:
1. write
a way for his users to quickly
allow Java for the page.
Thierry, does the Page Information dialog do what you need? You can open
that dialog from the small icon on the left of the address bar.
Cheers,
David
On 10/10/13 6:09 PM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:
On 10/10/2013 11:44 AM, Thierry Milard
. Some
developers prefer to Object.freeze() them, to ensure that this doesn't
happen, while others leave them open voluntarily and use monkey-patching
in test suites.
Both approaches have their pros and cons.
Do we/should we have a policy?
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it and forget that it's
asynchronous.
If someone wanted to use the function outside of a task, they'd just
need to add the Task wrapper.
I actually believe that it's quite easy to forget adding the Task
wrapper and end up with something wrong.
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Isn't it ultimately up to the developer to get it right? Someone could just as
well forget to use |if (object)| from your example.
Here's a sample usage from the header file:
* // Test a weak pointer for validity before using it.
* if (weak) {
* weak-num = 17;
* weak-act();
*
and the ref blows up ...
if (object) {
object-Method(); // oops
}
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To: David Major dma...@mozilla.com
Cc: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:27:03 PM
Subject: Re: Audit your code if you use mozilla
? Accessing sqlite from chrome workers? More tooling for Promise?
New preference APIs? Anything else?
Please drop a line, either here or on the blog:
http://wp.me/52O1
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David
P.S.: If you want to discuss this IRL, I'll be in Brussels for the Summit.
[1] From the top of my head, we have added
::do_something()
{
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builds and showing them on
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On Wednesday 2013-09-04 18:45 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 10:28:21AM +0100, L. David Baron wrote:
On Wednesday 2013-09-04 00:31 -0700, Gregory Szorc wrote:
Assuming it sticks, bug 896797 just landed in inbound and changes
how EXPORTS/headers are installed. This may
fanout related to the new DOM bindings generation.
(I'm not sure if it's landed.)
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What I
plus return value optimizations would take care of avoiding excess
reference counting?
Or does it involve something more complicated like returning rvalue
references? (Is such a thing possible?)
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earlier in the process, whose history
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and if the patch is of nontrivial size, point to the important
comments in the non-first lines of the commit message
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on standards-compliance
test suites might also be interesting, e.g., to see what sort of
coverage the test suite for a particular specification gives us, and
whether there are tests we could contribute to improve it.
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But I'm not sure if that's the answer you were thinking of.
(Also, I hope to send more comments on the proposal soon.)
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On 6/18/13 3:01 PM, Gavin Sharp wrote:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:10 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller
dtel...@mozilla.com wrote:
If I understand correctly, we are doubling both network and disk
activity (possibly CPU activity, too) for this purpose. Performance- and
battery-wise, that's not a very
, mozilla-beta) to ensure their
pushes are green, at least the trees that people are required to
watch should be closed enough time in advance of things going down
so that this doesn't happen (as for all downtimes like this).
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This has been discussed, but I haven't heard from this since in ages.
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Well, if we do not want the main thread to collapse under its weight, we
have to move code off the main thread and to encourage add-ons to do
likewise.
I'm not sure I see an alternative here.
Cheers,
David
On 5/24/13 1:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
My main concern is that Workers created
changes, though, having
a kill switch pretty much means forking the code of Session Restore into
an old session restore and a new one.
Do we have a policy on these things?
Cheers,
David
On 5/22/13 5:16 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
Do we have a kill switch for the new stuff (a build-time flag
on a single file, it might
make sense to just backout the changes if necessary.
Cheers,
David
On 5/22/13 3:35 PM, Johnathan Nightingale wrote:
Policy[1] is that whenever something lands on central, it is the
developer's responsibility to provide for the ability to turn it off.
Usually that's just
It should be possible to share some modules between Jetpack and Workers,
for Jetpack modules that do not depend on DOM or XPCOM and Worker
modules that do not depend on Worker-only code. This is not an immediate
goal, but it is considered a-would-be-nice-to-have.
Cheers,
David
On 5/20/13 8:53
that we
are about to break your add-on, please inform us asap, so that we can
work out a solution.
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On Friday 2013-02-08 14:37 -0800, L. David Baron wrote:
W3C is proposing a revised charter for the HTML Working Group.
For more details, see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Feb/0009.html
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/charter/2012/
Mozilla has the opportunity to send
like to place worker modules in
resource://gre/modules/workers/
Any comments?
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On 5/16/13 2:26 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
David Rajchenbach-Teller schrieb:
I'd even go as far as limiting it to 16kb.
(possibly with a transition phase during which going above 16kb only
prints warnings)
I think most of us agree, but the problem is that apparently a number of
add-ons rely
somewhat explicit,
otherwise we will at some point end up with unsatisfiable implicit
dependencies and we will need large refactorings to get around these.
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(or anything goes that works and is early enough..)
profile-before-change should be good. Any OS.File call posted before
xpcom-shutdown will be completed before we exit Firefox.
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it's worth; there are many
things we know we'll need during startup, and it's not worth the
extra overhead of checking every time if we've already called
getService.
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Another question: are the write tasks queued and completed in order, or can
two writeAtomic calls to the same file race each other and the 2nd call
finish first (only to have the 1st call finish and write older data)
All tasks to OS.File are queued and completed in order.
Cheers,
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://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ec0ad6f7e09 ,
though I don't know the bad changeset on the other half.
I've reopened the trees.
-David
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.comwrote:
The latest merge from m-c to inbound resulted in all debug unit
[bcc'd to many lists for wide visibility - discussion should probably be
on mobile.firefox.dev
(https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mobile-firefox-dev )]
TL;DR: Now is a good time to remove plugin support from Firefox for Android.
Consider:
* We do not support plugins for Firefox OS and do not
Whatever you do, please, please, please make sure that everything is
worker-friendly.
If we can't write (or at least read) contents to that Key-Value store from a
worker, we will need to reimplement everything in a few months.
Cheers,
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- Original Message -
From: Gregory Szorc g
The messaging around this should not be to tell people always test on
try. It should be to help them figure out how to make better judgement
calls on this. This is a skill that people develop and are not born with,
and without data it's hard an an individual to judge how good I'm at that.
On 04/23/13 02:17, Ed Morley wrote:
On 23 April 2013 09:58:41, Neil wrote:
Hopefully a push never burns all platforms because the developer tried
it locally first, but stranger things have happened!
This actually happens quite often. On occasion it's due to warnings as
errors (switched off
to bring up fundamental issues
for the first time at this stage.)
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Mine is crashing on startup. Can't even get to profile chooser dialog.
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Axel Hecht l...@mozilla.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm having a very crashy nightly, uptime below an hour, not really bound
to a site.
Might be
. Please reply to this thread if you think there's
something we should say.
-David
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reply to this thread if you think there's
something we should say.
-David
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merged on inbound when things are behind. (I
also don't feel like we need a full build/test run for every push,
so it feels like unnecessary use of resources to me.)
-David
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