Can we fix the UX?
Presumably we will never have zero shutdown hangs and there may be
different/better ways to prompt the user about it.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Vladan D vdje...@mozilla.com wrote:
KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC:
it's lousy UX.
On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 3:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kyle Huey wrote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen rya...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash
Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
Starting and shutting down properly (and quickly), IMO, fall into the
core quality / no compromise / we have to get this right bucket.
So making it higher priority sounds aligned with the Three Pillars.
And if so, should we allow features with
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen rya...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash if shutdown hasn't completed within
1 minute. Thanks to the watchdog
On 06/07/15 22:48, Vladan D wrote:
KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
Firefox
That's bug 1137941, but how would that reduce shutdown hangs?
--
David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD
Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash if shutdown hasn't completed within 1
minute. Thanks to the watchdog and the Windows profile unlocker [2], shutdown
hangs aren't as frustrating as they used to be. However, shutdown
On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
Background: Firefox shutdown hangs are turned into shutdown crashes by a
watchdog thread [1] that forces a crash if shutdown hasn't completed within 1
minute. Thanks to the watchdog and the Windows profile unlocker [2], shutdown
hangs aren't as frustrating
KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
Firefox
On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 4:37:41 PM UTC-4, RyanVM wrote:
On 7/6/2015 4:34 PM, Vladan D wrote:
Background: Firefox shutdown hangs
On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 5:00:36 PM UTC-4, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote:
On 06/07/15 22:48, Vladan D wrote:
KaiRo pointed out another reason to reduce shutdown hang rates on IRC: it's
lousy UX. The crash-reporter dialog pops up a minute after the user closed
Firefox
That's bug
Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
And if so, should we allow features with shutdown hangs to be released?
I admit to skimming over shutdown-hang signatures when looking at
topcrash lists. In my experience they're often longstanding issues that
are difficult to diagnose and
Vladan D. writes:
Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
_exit() after profile-before-change notification would be the
many-holes-with-one-plug bug to prioritize.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPCOM_Shutdown
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662444
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Karl Tomlinson mozn...@karlt.net wrote:
Vladan D. writes:
Should fixing shutdown hangs be higher priority?
_exit() after profile-before-change notification would be the
many-holes-with-one-plug bug to prioritize.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/XPCOM_Shutdown
Ah, right.
On 06/07/15 23:05, Vladan D wrote:
I think you misunderstood, I wasn't talking about the reducing the watchdog
timeout :)
I was saying that shutdown hangs result in bad Crash Reporter UX, so that is
one more reason to *fix* shutdown hangs, i.e. reduce the shutdown hang rate
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