Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-12-12 Thread Karl Tomlinson
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:31:15 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote: > It sounds to me that it's not generally true that autohinters can replace > hinting. At least not yet. > > What would be interesting is if we could enable an autohinter in Firefox > and use that in cases when we are sent a font which doesn

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-17 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2012-10-17 2:31 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: What would be interesting is if we could enable an autohinter in Firefox and use that in cases when we are sent a font which doesn't contain hints (is the performance overhead, if any, acceptable?) I don't have numbers, but I run my Linux desktop with

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-17 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Oct 17, 2012 11:20 AM, "Zack Weinberg" wrote: > > On 2012-10-17 11:05 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote: >> >> AFAICS, the latest stable release is currently 2.4.10; do you know when >> 2.4.11 is expected? > > > Afraid not; we should probably ask Werner. It sounds to me that it's not generally true that

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-17 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2012-10-17 11:05 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote: AFAICS, the latest stable release is currently 2.4.10; do you know when 2.4.11 is expected? Afraid not; we should probably ask Werner. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://li

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-17 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 17/10/12 14:17, Zack Weinberg wrote: On 2012-10-17 4:07 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Zack Weinberg wrote: Until quite recently the FreeType autohinter did a very bad job on a surprising number of popular webfonts - rendering letters in the same word with inconsi

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-17 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2012-10-17 4:07 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Zack Weinberg wrote: Until quite recently the FreeType autohinter did a very bad job on a surprising number of popular webfonts - rendering letters in the same word with inconsistent perceptual x-height, for instance.

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-17 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Zack Weinberg wrote: > Until quite recently the FreeType autohinter did a very bad job on a > surprising number of popular webfonts - rendering letters in the same word > with inconsistent perceptual x-height, for instance. What kind of fonts? Bicameral or other?

Re: Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-16 Thread Karl Tomlinson
On 2012-10-16 9:42 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > (Aside: In a way, it's rather sad how much engineering effort is put > into compressing TrueType hints, when the reason for sending TrueType > hints over the wire is that Microsoft's font rasterizer's are so > backwards that they still need hints even t

Freetype autohinter (was Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group)

2012-10-16 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2012-10-16 9:42 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: (Aside: In a way, it's rather sad how much engineering effort is put into compressing TrueType hints, when the reason for sending TrueType hints over the wire is that Microsoft's font rasterizer's are so backwards that they still need hints even though