Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-15 Thread William Lachance
On 2016-02-14 8:30 PM, Valentin Gosu wrote: >Great! It'll be interesting to track how these change over time as well >(or as versions get added to the list). Again, medians/means/etc may >help with evaluating and tracking this (or automating notices, ala Talos) > I thought about doing this,

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-14 Thread Martin Thomson
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Valentin Gosu > wrote: >>> Thumbnails, or columns on the right for each selected browser with >>> median (or mean), with the best (for that site) in green, the

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-14 Thread Martin Thomson
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Valentin Gosu wrote: >> Thumbnails, or columns on the right for each selected browser with >> median (or mean), with the best (for that site) in green, the worst in >> red would allow eyeballing the results and finding interesting >>

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-14 Thread Valentin Gosu
On 12 February 2016 at 17:11, Randell Jesup wrote: > >- You can click on each individual point to go to the WPT run and view > >the results in greater detail > > What does "run index" mean in the graphs? The values appear to be > sorted from best to worst; so it's

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Meenan
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 8:27:46 PM UTC-5, Eric Rahm wrote: > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:03:05 PM UTC-8, Patrick Meenan wrote: > > "Memory Usage" is complicated. Specially when you try to compare > > different architectures. > > Sure, but this is all Windows for desktop

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-12 Thread Randell Jesup
>TL;DR - Firefox does pretty well when compared to Chrome. Excellent! Cool stats! >We've begun this project by doing a set of performance runs on >WebPageTest.com in order to compare Firefox's performance against Chrome on >the home pages of the Alexa 100 (the top 100 web sites worldwide).

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-12 Thread Eric Rahm
On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 9:41:02 AM UTC-8, Patrick Meenan wrote: > > > For example with Firefox I would be interested in the RSS of the parent > > > process (firefox.exe) and the USS of the child processes > > > (plugin-container.exe). For Chrome it would be more along the lines of > > >

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-12 Thread Patrick Meenan
> > For example with Firefox I would be interested in the RSS of the parent > > process (firefox.exe) and the USS of the child processes > > (plugin-container.exe). For Chrome it would be more along the lines of the > > RSS of the main chrome process, and the USS of the renderer/gpu/plugin > >

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Eric Rahm
Really interesting project, is this currently Windows only? It would be great if we could get memory usage as well. Also just to clarify, this is WPT that runs on webpagetest.org with code from https://github.com/WPO-Foundation/webpagetest? -e ___

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Meenan
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:12:07 PM UTC-5, mcaste...@mozilla.com wrote: > It would be interesting to know the specifications of the system running the > tests and to run them on systems with differing characteristics (e.g. > different graphics card, different amount of RAM, etc.). > >

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Meenan
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:57:57 PM UTC-5, Patrick Meenan wrote: > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:12:07 PM UTC-5, mcaste...@mozilla.com > wrote: > > It would be interesting to know the specifications of the system running > > the tests and to run them on systems with differing

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Mark Hammond
On 11/02/2016 11:38 AM, Valentin Gosu wrote: TL;DR - Firefox does pretty well when compared to Chrome. The Presto project is a Mozilla platform initiative that intends to look into any performance differences between Firefox and other UserAgents in order to highlight areas that we should look

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread mcastelluccio
It would be interesting to know the specifications of the system running the tests and to run them on systems with differing characteristics (e.g. different graphics card, different amount of RAM, etc.). - Marco. ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Meenan
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:37:40 PM UTC-5, Valentin Gosu wrote: > On 11 February 2016 at 19:46, Eric Rahm wrote: > > > Really interesting project, is this currently Windows only? It would be > > great if we could get memory usage as well. > > > > > Judging by the UA

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Eric Rahm
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:03:05 PM UTC-8, Patrick Meenan wrote: > "Memory Usage" is complicated. Specially when you try to compare > different architectures. Sure, but this is all Windows for desktop at least. > Working set? Virtual memory? Accounting for shared pages, etc.

Re: Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-11 Thread Valentin Gosu
On 11 February 2016 at 19:46, Eric Rahm wrote: > Really interesting project, is this currently Windows only? It would be > great if we could get memory usage as well. > > Judging by the UA string - Windows NT 6.1; WOW64 - and the fact that we can run IE tests, it seems this is

Presto: Comparing Firefox performance with other browsers (and e10s with non-e10s)

2016-02-10 Thread Valentin Gosu
TL;DR - Firefox does pretty well when compared to Chrome. The Presto project is a Mozilla platform initiative that intends to look into any performance differences between Firefox and other UserAgents in order to highlight areas that we should look into improving and to clear any prejudice that