Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2014-01-17 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:28 PM, ISHIKAWA,chiaki ishik...@yk.rim.or.jp wrote: (2014/01/16 12:22), Zack Weinberg wrote: On 2013-11-26 5:40 AM, Neil wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: On Windows, do we really need to pay homage to the pre-NT legacy when doing Save As? How about we just use UTF-8

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2014-01-17 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fi wrote: All this use of iconv is sad, yes. I wouldn't be opposed to dropping the iconv code paths and using the OS X / Android code (that assumes that operating system's file system APIs always take UTF-8) for all *nix

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2014-01-17 Thread ISHIKAWA,chiaki
(Sorry for top-posting.) Dear Henri Sivonen, Thank you for lucid explanation. I am trying to understand the details and am pondering inserting a few more dumps to figure out the answers to your newly raised questions. I will report my finding RSN. Thank you again. Your comment clears up a

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2014-01-17 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2014-01-17 4:39 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:28 PM, ISHIKAWA,chiaki ishik...@yk.rim.or.jp wrote: I found that TB generates during its execution UTF-8 file path name strings WITHOUT BOM and still contain supposedly a valid UTF8 path name. I'm pretty sure that file

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2014-01-16 Thread ISHIKAWA,chiaki
(2014/01/16 12:22), Zack Weinberg wrote: On 2013-11-26 5:40 AM, Neil wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: On Windows, do we really need to pay homage to the pre-NT legacy when doing Save As? How about we just use UTF-8 for HTML Page, complete reserialization like on Mac? You'll need a BOM, of

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2014-01-15 Thread Zack Weinberg
On 2013-11-26 5:40 AM, Neil wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: On Windows, do we really need to pay homage to the pre-NT legacy when doing Save As? How about we just use UTF-8 for HTML Page, complete reserialization like on Mac? You'll need a BOM, of course. (MXR turns up so little that it makes

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-26 Thread Neil
Henri Sivonen wrote: On Windows, do we really need to pay homage to the pre-NT legacy when doing Save As? How about we just use UTF-8 for HTML Page, complete reserialization like on Mac? You'll need a BOM, of course. (MXR turns up so little that it makes me wonder non-UTF-8 support might

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-26 Thread Henri Sivonen
that the time was ripe by now to go over to using UTF-8. Yes, but now I can't locate the code that I thought I was reading, so let's ignore this aspect. * Do we (or gtk) really still support non-UTF-8 platform charset values on *nix? (MXR turns up so little that it makes me wonder non-UTF-8 support might

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-26 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On 11/26/2013 6:37 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Yuri Dario mc6...@mclink.it wrote: the OS/2 port is alive, we already have a beta release for 17.x and a more current version will follow. Does this work all happen in forked repositories, such as

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-26 Thread Simon Montagu
charset when saving as HTML Page, complete? For Save As Text I would have thought that the time was ripe by now to go over to using UTF-8. * Do we (or gtk) really still support non-UTF-8 platform charset values on *nix? (MXR turns up so little that it makes me wonder non-UTF-8 support might have

Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-25 Thread Henri Sivonen
reserialization like on Mac? * Is the OS/2 port still alive and supported as an in-tree port? The latest releases I've seen are 10.x ESR. * Do we (or gtk) really still support non-UTF-8 platform charset values on *nix? (MXR turns up so little that it makes me wonder non-UTF-8 support might have

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-25 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fiwrote: We have a concept of platform charset that goes back to pre-NT Windows, Mac OS Classic, OS/2 and pre-UTF-8 *nix platforms. This concept gets in the way of doCOMtaminating old code to use only new facilities in

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-25 Thread Karl Tomlinson
Henri Sivonen writes: On *nix platforms, it's not clear to me what exactly the platform charset is used for these days. An MXR search turns up surprisingly little. * Do we (or gtk) really still support non-UTF-8 platform charset values on *nix? (MXR turns up so little that it makes me

Re: Support for non-UTF-8 platform charset

2013-11-25 Thread Simon Montagu
charset when saving as HTML Page, complete? For Save As Text I would have thought that the time was ripe by now to go over to using UTF-8. * Do we (or gtk) really still support non-UTF-8 platform charset values on *nix? (MXR turns up so little that it makes me wonder non-UTF-8 support might have