Re: Unprefixed CSS and DOM properties (across browser vendors)

2015-07-16 Thread Jet Villegas
This is the bug I filed to capture the unprefix list:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775235

Having our dev-tools alert for deprecated syntax would be very helpful. +cc
dev-developer-tools for feedback.

--Jet

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote:

 Hello,
 (mostly for people of DOM and CSS)

 tl;dr: A list of unprefixed properties where the prefixed version has been
 dropped.

 Context:

 A feature has 4 states (or at least my impression):

 1. No support
 2. prefixed only support (MozFoo and -moz-bar)
 3. prefixed and unprefixed support (MozFoo, Foo, -moz-bar and bar)
 4. unprefixed only support (Foo and bar)

 For Web Compatibility, dropping the unprefixed version may create issues
 (See the recent issue with -moz-gradient).

 I would love to know if we have an always up to date list features state
 for Firefox/Gecko. Both caniuse and MDN are giving the information on when
 the prefixless version has been introduced but never when/if the prefix has
 been dropped.


 Why is it interesting?

 Given the current state of the Chinese and Japanese Web, some prefixes
 seem impossible to drop both for Mozilla, but also other browser vendors.
 Having the list of the current state could help us to send the right
 message to Web developers on
1. adding prefixless versions to their code
2. sometimes to remove the prefixed version of their code (more
 difficult because of old mobile devices).



 PS: I want to know that for WebKit, Blink and Edge too. I will ask around.

 --
 Karl Dubost, Mozilla
 http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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Unprefixed CSS and DOM properties (across browser vendors)

2015-07-15 Thread Karl Dubost
Hello,
(mostly for people of DOM and CSS)

tl;dr: A list of unprefixed properties where the prefixed version has been 
dropped.

Context:

A feature has 4 states (or at least my impression):

1. No support 
2. prefixed only support (MozFoo and -moz-bar)
3. prefixed and unprefixed support (MozFoo, Foo, -moz-bar and bar)
4. unprefixed only support (Foo and bar)

For Web Compatibility, dropping the unprefixed version may create issues (See 
the recent issue with -moz-gradient). 

I would love to know if we have an always up to date list features state for 
Firefox/Gecko. Both caniuse and MDN are giving the information on when the 
prefixless version has been introduced but never when/if the prefix has been 
dropped. 


Why is it interesting?

Given the current state of the Chinese and Japanese Web, some prefixes seem 
impossible to drop both for Mozilla, but also other browser vendors. Having the 
list of the current state could help us to send the right message to Web 
developers on 
   1. adding prefixless versions to their code
   2. sometimes to remove the prefixed version of their code (more difficult 
because of old mobile devices).



PS: I want to know that for WebKit, Blink and Edge too. I will ask around. 

-- 
Karl Dubost, Mozilla
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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