Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-27 Thread Tantek Çelik
LGTM. Thanks David. -t On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:26 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > I submitted comments on both charters: > > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2018Jul/0016.html > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2018Jul/0015.html > > (I'm still able to

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-27 Thread L. David Baron
I submitted comments on both charters: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2018Jul/0016.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2018Jul/0015.html (I'm still able to revise them in the next 8 hours if there's something that needs to be modified.) -David -- 턞

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-27 Thread James Teh
A final clarification: On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > Even if we (Mozilla) are delayed with implementation, we can > still champion this stuff. We can still nominate someone to > participate in the WG with subject matter expertise to help guide what > we think will be

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-27 Thread L. David Baron
I also have a few comments on the draft APA charter at https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-apa-charter now that I've had a chance to review it. I think we should suggest that both: * the first toplevel bullet point in the scope section * the second bullet point in the success criteria section be

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-27 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:48 PM, James Teh wrote: > TL;DR: Thanks for the further explanation/clarification. I (reluctantly) > agree that these concerns make sense and have nothing else to add as far as > the response goes. Thanks Jamie. I very much appreciate your thoroughness. The additional

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread James Teh
TL;DR: Thanks for the further explanation/clarification. I (reluctantly) agree that these concerns make sense and have nothing else to add as far as the response goes. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > > The only thing worth > > noting is that while you say there's no need

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 8:57 PM, James Teh wrote: > That all seems reasonable from a process perspective. The only thing worth > noting is that while you say there's no need to delay for years, that may > well be what ends up happening, and Mozilla will essentially be "blocking > progress" on

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread James Teh
That all seems reasonable from a process perspective. The only thing worth noting is that while you say there's no need to delay for years, that may well be what ends up happening, and Mozilla will essentially be "blocking progress" on this front. We want "limited resources" to drive better

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:04 PM, James Teh wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 2:09 AM, L. David Baron wrote: > >> So some comments on the ARIA charter at >> https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter : >> ... >> I guess it seems OK to have only one implementation >> if there's really only going

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread James Teh
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 2:09 AM, L. David Baron wrote: > So some comments on the ARIA charter at > https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter : > ... > I guess it seems OK to have only one implementation > if there's really only going to be one implementation on that > platform... but

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 9:09 AM, L. David Baron wrote: > So some comments on the ARIA charter at > https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter : tl;dr: We should show general support for work happening in this area (per Jamie's email), however we should point out critical flaws in the charter

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-26 Thread L. David Baron
So some comments on the ARIA charter at https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter : So one concern I've heard about these charters and that I probably share is that the ARIA charter says: For every platform with mappings in an Accessibility API Mapping specification, at least one

Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Accessibility (APA and ARIA Working Groups)

2018-07-12 Thread James Teh
I (and others in the accessibility team) think we should support these charters. The ARIA working group is especially important in the future evolution of web accessibility. I have some potential concerns/questions regarding the personalisation semantics specifications from APA, but they're more