Re: Request for feedback on crypto privacy protections of geolocation data

2013-09-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 10/09/13 19:05, Chris Peterson wrote: Our location service (and stumbler) also collects cell data, so we can geolocate with Wi-Fi AP and/or cell data. Sure. But in the rural areas I am thinking about, cells cover many square km. The wifi access point has a much smaller range, and therefore

Re: Request for feedback on crypto privacy protections of geolocation data

2013-09-11 Thread Chris Peterson
On 9/11/13 9:59 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: But at this point it seems clear to me, that there's likely no way to share any meaningful subset or aggregated version of this data publicly at all. No way to share the Wi-Fi data. Our stumblers are also collecting cell tower data and I don't see

Re: Request for feedback on crypto privacy protections of geolocation data

2013-09-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On 10.09.2013, at 20:23 , ianG i...@iang.org wrote: On 11/09/13 03:27 AM, Daniel Veditz wrote: private means we can't even /look/ at it, rather than merely can't store it? The data regime might be simply put as this: you can't store a number suitable for tracking (or any derivative of it

Re: Request for feedback on crypto privacy protections of geolocation data

2013-09-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On 10.09.2013, at 17:41 , Daniel Veditz dved...@mozilla.com wrote: That can't be right, so your database must be more complex. If you're storing more than originally implied that may have some impact on a security assessment. We apparently haven't been clear about the scope of the proposal. It

Re: Request for feedback on crypto privacy protections of geolocation data

2013-09-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On 11.09.2013, at 02:06 , Gervase Markham g...@mozilla.org wrote: On 10/09/13 19:05, Chris Peterson wrote: Our location service (and stumbler) also collects cell data, so we can geolocate with Wi-Fi AP and/or cell data. Sure. But in the rural areas I am thinking about, cells cover many