Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/04/15 08:17, Man Ho (Certizen) wrote: The term transfer a root certificate is new to me. What are the rationale of such transferal? Move from one location to another location, or from one HSM to another HSM? Ownership of the CA had changed from one organization to another organization?

RE: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ben Wilson
Kathleen, I think we need to drill down into what is meant by audit. Also, I don't think a CA who is under ongoing audit obligations should have a special audit just for a root transfer. Neither should the current CA that is operating under audit be required to have a special audit. If two

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/23/2015 4:21 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, It has been brought to my attention that we do not have a documented procedure or policy about how to transfer a root certificate from one CA to another. Do we need to add expectations about root cert transfers to Mozilla's CA

Re: Certinomis Request to Include Renewed Root

2015-04-24 Thread kwilson
On Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 4:19:33 PM UTC-8, Kathleen Wilson wrote: Certinomis has applied to include the Certinomis - Root CA root certificate, and enable the Websites trust bit. This SHA-256 root will eventually replace the Certinomis - Autorité Racine G2 root certificate that was

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Fri, April 24, 2015 6:34 am, Moudrick M. Dadashov wrote: Kathleen, wouldn't be it easier to apply the transferred CA the same requirements as to any other? That means the new CA must have its operations audited under its ***fully completed transfer*** operations. The root and all

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Moudrick M. Dadashov
On 4/24/2015 5:30 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Fri, April 24, 2015 6:34 am, Moudrick M. Dadashov wrote: Kathleen, wouldn't be it easier to apply the transferred CA the same requirements as to any other? That means the new CA must have its operations audited under its ***fully completed

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Fri, April 24, 2015 8:20 am, David E. Ross wrote: 2. If the new owner is a certification authority whose root certificates already exist in the NSS database, that root will continued to be considered trusted. However, trust bits and EV status of the transferred root cannot exceed the

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/24/2015 8:58 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote [in part]: On Fri, April 24, 2015 8:20 am, I previously wrote [also in part]: 2. If the new owner is a certification authority whose root certificates already exist in the NSS database, that root will continued to be considered trusted. However,

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Fri, April 24, 2015 7:52 pm, David E. Ross wrote: If a root has already been added to the NSS database, we must assume that it has undergone the Mozilla process for that inclusion. The process involves looking not only at the root but also at the certification authority; at least that

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2015-04-24 01:21, Kathleen Wilson wrote: 4) Before the new CA begins issuing certs in the transferred CA cert hierarchy, there should be an audit performed at the new CA's site to confirm that the transfer was successful and that the root cert is ready to resume issuance. Would this be a