Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Peter Gutmann
Nick Lamb writes: >Although we'd usually say "contract" means a signed piece of paper the law >considers that just an artefact, a contract is the "meeting of minds" >requiring both parties to understand and agree on its terms. That's why >tricking someone into signing works in the movies but not

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Matt Palmer
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 05:13:54PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 07:38:29AM -0700, Nick Lamb wrote: > > On Sunday, 16 October 2016 08:59:13 UTC+1, Adrian R. wrote: > > > They rolled back the revocation, but i thought that the BRs explicitly > > > forbid that a suspended/revo

Re: StartCom & Qihoo Incidents

2016-10-16 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 3:18:22 PM UTC-7, Eric Mill wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:31 AM, Peter Gutmann > wrote: > > > The only one who's openly addressed this > > seems to be Mozilla. > > > > It would certainly be nice if Mozilla weren't the only openly operated root > program. :)

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Peter Bowen
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Vincent Lynch wrote: > Looking at the BRs ( > https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/CA-Browser-Forum-BR-1.4.1.pdf ). > Section 4.10.1 says: > > "Revocation entries on a CRL or OCSP Response MUST NOT be removed until after > the Expiry Date of the revoked Certi

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Vincent Lynch
Here is my understanding, according to the wording in GlobalSign's incident report ( https://downloads.globalsign.com/acton/attachment/2674/f-06d2/1/-/-/-/-/globalsign-incident-report-13-oct-2016.pdf ): -Revocation of the certificate was intended. GlobalSign writes: "In a revocation exercise w

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread okaphone . elektronika
Sound to me like they probably still want that particular certificate revoked as soon as the bug has been fixed. CU Hans ___ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 07:38:29AM -0700, Nick Lamb wrote: > On Sunday, 16 October 2016 08:59:13 UTC+1, Adrian R. wrote: > > They rolled back the revocation, but i thought that the BRs explicitly > > forbid that a suspended/revoked certificate be un-suspended/un-revoked. > > I don't know whether

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Nick Lamb
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 08:59:13 UTC+1, Adrian R. wrote: > They rolled back the revocation, but i thought that the BRs explicitly forbid > that a suspended/revoked certificate be un-suspended/un-revoked. I don't know whether the exact text permits this, but it seems from a common sense point

Re: Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Han Yuwei
在 2016年10月16日星期日 UTC+8下午3:59:13,Adrian R.写道: > Hello > > i read in the news (but not here on m.d.s.p) that a few days ago Globalsign > revoked one of their intermediary roots and then un-revoked it (well, the > revocation is accidental, but it was still a properly announced revocation, > via si

Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread okaphone . elektronika
The revocation was not accidental. They intended to do it, it was only the effects they did not like. (Because of buggy software?) So, what can you do when that happens. Seems best to pull try and undo the revocation. Perhaps even when you can't do that according to the rules. CU Hans _

Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread okaphone . elektronika
So that explains why our URL checking batch job was logging certificate invalid errors for some 700 links to the Wikipedia we have on our website for two days. I checked with a browser but couldn't see anything wrong. Make more sense knowing this... ;-)t CU Hans

Globalsign accidental intermediate revocation incident

2016-10-16 Thread Adrian R.
Hello i read in the news (but not here on m.d.s.p) that a few days ago Globalsign revoked one of their intermediary roots and then un-revoked it (well, the revocation is accidental, but it was still a properly announced revocation, via signed CRL and OCSP). http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10