RE: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-16 Thread Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy
0, 2019 4:47 PM > To: Wayne Thayer > Cc: Alex Cohn ; Alex Gaynor ; > mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Buschart, Rufus > ; Hanno Böck > Subject: RE: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues > > Yes – we will do so. We’ve encouraged all customers to not generate ke

RE: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-10 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
Böck ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues Thanks Jeremy. The fact that CertCenter is just a reseller and not an RA was not obvious to me. To your point, building an insecure website on top of a CA's API does not strike me as something

Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-10 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
To: Buschart, Rufus > Cc: Alex Cohn ; > mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Hanno Böck > > Subject: Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues > > The Mozilla policy does not prohibit backdating, except when it's used to > evade time-based policy controls. > > Back

Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-10 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
On 10/01/2019 19:00, Jeremy Rowley wrote: > A couple of thoughts: > 1) CertCenter is not a CA or RA. They have a custom named ICA that is hosted > and operated by DigiCert. All validation, issuance, and linting is performed > by DigiCert prior to issuance. > 2) Lots of cert customers have

RE: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-10 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
Cohn ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Hanno Böck Subject: Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues The Mozilla policy does not prohibit backdating, except when it's used to evade time-based policy controls. Backdating certs by a few hours is a relatively common practice to minimize

Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-10 Thread Alex Gaynor via dev-security-policy
The Mozilla policy does not prohibit backdating, except when it's used to evade time-based policy controls. Backdating certs by a few hours is a relatively common practice to minimize breakages for consumers with busted clocks. Alex On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:43 AM Buschart, Rufus via

AW: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-10 Thread Buschart, Rufus via dev-security-policy
The certificate [1] seems also to be 'back-dated' by about 18 hours. What is Mozillas opinion about this in the light of https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/Forbidden_or_Problematic_Practices#Backdating_the_notBefore_Date ? > It appears AlwaysOnSSL is not completely disabled - if we trust CT as a >

Re: AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-09 Thread Alex Cohn via dev-security-policy
Hi, It appears AlwaysOnSSL is not completely disabled - if we trust CT as a timestamping service, [1] was issued after Hanno's email. I believe AlwaysOnSSL has at least two separate paths to issuance - in addition to the website, there's also an API on CertCenter's website. [2] While reading the

AlwaysOnSSL web security issues

2019-01-09 Thread Hanno Böck via dev-security-policy
Hi, AlwaysOnSSL was a free certificate authority operated by CertCenter. I recently noticed that their main webpage was gone, but pieces of the service were still online. I immediately found a few web security issues. I reported those to certcenter and digicert (which is the root CA their