Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-09-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2014-09-17 00:52, Kathleen Wilson wrote: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements#Whole-Population_Audit_of_Intermediate_Certs I really like this section, it makes things clear. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements#WebTrust_BR_Audit_Statement

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-09-16 Thread Kathleen Wilson
All, I updated the following sections of the CA:BaselineRequirements wiki page based on feedback that I received from auditors. Please re-review these sections, and reply if you have feedback on them.

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-09-03 Thread Kathleen Wilson
I updated this part of the wiki page: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements#Audit_Mistakes The section is long, so I won't copy it all here. The most significant change is the addition of the last sentence in this paragraph: When egregious mistakes were overlooked by the auditor,

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-09-03 Thread Steve Roylance
Kathleen, Would it make sense to poll auditors with this wording change? The are some on the CABForum mailing list (Wayne could verify) as I suspect it would be more beneficial for auditors themselves to see, agree and above all acknowledge the intent behind the stance you are taking?

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-09-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/3/2014 2:43 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 02:24:04PM -0700, Kathleen Wilson wrote: The most significant change is the addition of the last sentence in this paragraph: When egregious mistakes were overlooked by the auditor, or there are a significant number of

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-09-03 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 9/3/14, 3:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 9/3/2014 2:43 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 02:24:04PM -0700, Kathleen Wilson wrote: The most significant change is the addition of the last sentence in this paragraph: When egregious mistakes were overlooked by the auditor, or

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-21 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 8/20/14, 5:57 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: Regarding Whole-Population BR Audit of Intermediate Certs, since the BRs are for SSL certs, this should probably only apply to intermediate certs that are capable of issuing SSL certs. Agreed, which will require a definition of capability. This was

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-20 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 8/19/14, 5:37 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, I started a new wiki page to document Mozilla's expectations regarding CA compliance with the BRs, and auditing according to the BRs. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements It is a very rough draft, but I would appreciate feedback on

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-20 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wed, August 20, 2014 5:17 pm, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 8/19/14, 5:37 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, I started a new wiki page to document Mozilla's expectations regarding CA compliance with the BRs, and auditing according to the BRs.

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-19 Thread Kathleen Wilson
All, I started a new wiki page to document Mozilla's expectations regarding CA compliance with the BRs, and auditing according to the BRs. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements It is a very rough draft, but I would appreciate feedback on it. Thanks, Kathleen

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2014-08-13 20:16, Kathleen Wilson wrote: 4) I think we need to formally augment the audit process with software tools; such as analysis of data of existing sites chaining up to roots being considered for inclusion. And also run periodically for included roots. I think it would be useful if

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2014-08-14 14:42, Kurt Roeckx wrote: Do we also need a policy about how fast we would like issues to be fixed? At which point do we remove a CA that does not comply? So CAB baseline has: 13.1.5 Reasons for Revoking a Subscriber Certificate The CA SHALL revoke a Certificate within 24 hours

Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-13 Thread Kathleen Wilson
All, As the CFCA discussion showed, there are a few things still to figure out regarding the audits of CA conformance to the BRs. Here are my proposals. 1) BR Audits should always include the whole-population audit of intermediate certificates. The CA's roots and all of their intermediate

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/2014 11:16 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote [in part]: All, As the CFCA discussion showed, there are a few things still to figure out regarding the audits of CA conformance to the BRs. Here are my proposals. [snipped} 3) If the CA's auditor missed something regarding the BRs

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-13 Thread Peter Bowen
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Kathleen Wilson kwil...@mozilla.com wrote: 2) BR point-in-time audits may not be sufficient. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:CertificatePolicyV2.1#Time_Frames_for_included_CAs_to_comply_with_the_new_policy Any Certificate Authority being considered for root

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-13 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wed, August 13, 2014 12:41 pm, Peter Bowen wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Kathleen Wilson kwil...@mozilla.com wrote: 2) BR point-in-time audits may not be sufficient. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:CertificatePolicyV2.1#Time_Frames_for_included_CAs_to_comply_with_the_new_policy

Re: Audits of CA conformance to the BRs

2014-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/2014 12:34 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Wed, August 13, 2014 12:02 pm, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/13/2014 11:16 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote [in part]: All, As the CFCA discussion showed, there are a few things still to figure out regarding the audits of CA conformance to the BRs. Here