Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-16 Thread Charles Reiss
On 12/15/15 01:48, Peter Bowen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: >> >> Another thing to consider in updating the policy is in regards to test >> certificates versus certificates issued to customers. >> e.g. Does the disclosure need to happen before test certificates

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-14 Thread Peter Bowen
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > > Another thing to consider in updating the policy is in regards to test > certificates versus certificates issued to customers. > e.g. Does the disclosure need to happen before test certificates are issued? > Or does the disclosure just ne

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-14 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 11/3/15 4:24 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: Topic to discuss [1]: “(D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and disclosure has to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. Section 10 of the Inclusion Policy says: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-03 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 12/3/15 11:34 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: Agreed. However it does raise the question of whether the Mozilla policy should be: 1) All certificates with CA:TRUE must be disclosed or 2) All certificates with CA:TRUE must be disclosed except: - certificates that meet the technically constrained defi

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-03 Thread Peter Bowen
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > On 12/3/15 11:04 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Kathleen Wilson >> wrote: On 23/11/15 15:57, Peter Bowen wrote: > > > I realize that Mozilla carved out allowance for not disclosing, but

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-03 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 12/3/15 11:04 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 23/11/15 15:57, Peter Bowen wrote: I realize that Mozilla carved out allowance for not disclosing, but the CA/Browser Forum did not adopt this, instead only exempting technically constrained CA

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-03 Thread Peter Bowen
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: >> On 23/11/15 15:57, Peter Bowen wrote: >>> >>> I realize that Mozilla carved out allowance for not disclosing, but >>> the CA/Browser Forum did not adopt this, instead only exempting >>> technically constrained CAs from the audit requireme

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-03 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 23/11/15 15:57, Peter Bowen wrote: I realize that Mozilla carved out allowance for not disclosing, but the CA/Browser Forum did not adopt this, instead only exempting technically constrained CAs from the audit requirement. Maybe this is a place where the Mozilla policy can aligned with the BR

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-12-03 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/11/15 15:57, Peter Bowen wrote: > I realize that Mozilla carved out allowance for not disclosing, but > the CA/Browser Forum did not adopt this, instead only exempting > technically constrained CAs from the audit requirement. Maybe this is > a place where the Mozilla policy can aligned with

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-23 Thread Peter Bowen
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > Topic to discuss [1]: > “(D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and disclosure > has to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. > > What further clarification needs to be added to Mozilla’s CA Certificate > Policy to m

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/20/2015 12:33 PM, Peter Bowen wrote [in part]: > It would be good to clarify whether "subordinate CA" means the > operator of the subordinate CA (a company or individual) or if it > means the CA itself (e.g. the tuple of keypair and distinguished > name). This reflects the too casual use of

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-20 Thread Charles Reiss
On 11/19/15 23:09, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > By the time version 2.3 of Mozilla’s CA Cert Policy is published, I hope to > have > issued a CA Community License to every included CA. Taking that into > consideration; I propose changing the policy as follows. > [snip] > > As always, I will apprecia

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-20 Thread Peter Bowen
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > Topic to discuss [1]: > “(D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and disclosure > has to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. > > Section 10 of the Inclusion Policy says: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governa

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-20 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/11/15 23:09, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > “10. … The CA with a certificate included in Mozilla’s CA Certificate > Program MUST disclose this information *in the CA Community in > Salesforce* https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:SalesforceCommunity> > before any such subordinate CA is allowed to issue cert

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-19 Thread Kathleen Wilson
By the time version 2.3 of Mozilla’s CA Cert Policy is published, I hope to have issued a CA Community License to every included CA. Taking that into consideration; I propose changing the policy as follows. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-group/certs/policy/incl

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-05 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Thu, November 5, 2015 12:51 pm, Charles Reiss wrote: > My impression is that Mozilla need not be explicitly notified of new > subCAs; the > disclosure may take the form of an update on the CA's website (perhaps > even just > a new version of the CPS). If so, this would seem to make it diffi

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-05 Thread Charles Reiss
On 11/04/15 00:24, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > Topic to discuss [1]: > “(D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and disclosure > has > to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. > > Section 10 of the Inclusion Policy says: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/polici

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-05 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 11/3/15 7:09 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Tue, November 3, 2015 4:24 pm, Kathleen Wilson wrote: Topic to discuss [1]: (D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and disclosure has to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. What further clarification needs to be adde

Re: Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-03 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Tue, November 3, 2015 4:24 pm, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > Topic to discuss [1]: > “(D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and > disclosure has to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. > What further clarification needs to be added to Mozilla’s CA Certificate > Po

Policy Update Proposal: Timeline for Disclosing SubCAs

2015-11-03 Thread Kathleen Wilson
Topic to discuss [1]: “(D3) Make the timeline clear about when the audit statements and disclosure has to happen for new audited/disclosed subCAs. Section 10 of the Inclusion Policy says: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-group/certs/policy/inclusion/ “The CA with