Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-13 Thread Andrew Ayer via dev-security-policy
Hi Wayne, > > This means, for example, that (i) a CA must provide OCSP services and > > responses in accordance with Mozilla policy for all Precertificates as if > > the corresponding certificate exists, and (ii) a CA must be able to revoke > > a Precertificate if revocation of the certificate is

Apple: Precertificates without corresponding certificates return OCSP value of "unknown"

2019-09-13 Thread Apple CA via dev-security-policy
We’ve been following the discussions regarding how OCSP responders should handle Precertificates without corresponding certificates and what the appropriate response indicator should be (good, revoked, or unknown). Based on the recent clarifications at [1], we want to inform the community that

Re: Trusted Recursive Resolver Policy in India

2019-09-13 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
Rich: I want to acknowledge your question, which I think is really "what is the right forum for Mozilla TRR (DNS over HTTPS) policy [1] discussions?" I don't currently have an answer for you, but will respond when I do. - Wayne [1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/DOH-resolver-policy On Wed,

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-13 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
Thanks everyone for your feedback! I'm sensing that the proposed language is generally helpful. I've made two updates: * Accepted Jeremy's proposed language for the examples in the last paragraph. * attempted to address Tim Shirley's point that a precertificate is not literally "proof" that a

RE: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-13 Thread Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy
Yes, but I think this clarifies things in the wrong direction. -Tim > -Original Message- > From: Rob Stradling > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:22 AM > To: Tim Hollebeek ; Jeremy Rowley > ; Alex Cohn > Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Wayne Thayer > > Subject:

RE: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-13 Thread Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy
Tim Shirley did a good job of pointing it out. The relevant OCSP RFCs talk about issued certificates, which pre-certificates aren’t. This isn’t a policy matter, it’s a matter of a plain reading of the relevant RFCs, and trying to align that with what people want them to say as opposed to what

Re: Google Trust Services - CRL handling of expired certificates not fully compliant with RFC 5280 Section 3.3

2019-09-13 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
Thank you for the report and follow-up Andy. I created https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1581183 to track this issue. - Wayne On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM Andy Warner via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > A quick follow-up to close this out. >

Re: Google Trust Services - CRL handling of expired certificates not fully compliant with RFC 5280 Section 3.3

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Warner via dev-security-policy
A quick follow-up to close this out. The push to fully address the issue was completed globally shortly before 16:00 UTC on 2019-09-02. After additional review, we're confident the only certificates affected were these two: https://crt.sh/?id=760396354 https://crt.sh/?id=759833603 Google

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-13 Thread Rob Stradling via dev-security-policy
On 12/09/2019 20:48, Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy wrote: > So, this is something that would be helpfully clarified via either an IETF > draft, There's already a 6962-bis draft [1] in IESG Last Call, which (when we finally complete it!) will obsolete RFC6962. 6962-bis redefines