Re: Certificate with Debian weak key issued by Let's Encrypt

2017-09-18 Thread josh--- via dev-security-policy
A report regarding this incident has been published on the Let's Encrypt community site: https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/2017-09-09-late-weak-key-revocation/42519 The text is copied here: On July 16, 2017 it was reported to Let’s Encrypt by researcher Hanno Böck that it was possible to get

Let's Encrypt 2017.09.08 CAA Checking Algorithm Incident

2017-09-18 Thread josh--- via dev-security-policy
On Friday September 8, 2017, at 10:04pm US Pacific time, Let's Encrypt received a report pointing out a certificate that should not have been issued per CAA RFC 6844 [1]. When CAA checking became mandatory on September 8, 2017, it only allowed the CAA checking algorithm specified in RFC 6844. S

Let's Encrypt 2017.09.08 Expired DNSSEC Response Incident

2017-09-18 Thread josh--- via dev-security-policy
On September 8, 2017, Let’s Encrypt received a report from researcher Andrew Ayer that we accepted an expired DNSSEC RRSIG during certificate issuance. The RRSIG was very recently expired (< 1hr). This violates RFC 4033 Section 8.1 [1]: “The signatures associated with signed zone data are only

Re: Old roots to new roots best practice?

2017-09-18 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
Hi Ben, While I wasn't trying to suggest the reasoning was the same, I was trying to highlight that for many implementations, the revocation of a single certificate (where there may exist multiple cross-signs) induces enough non-determinism to effectively constitute revoking all of them. That is,

RE: Old roots to new roots best practice?

2017-09-18 Thread Ben Wilson via dev-security-policy
Ryan, Could you please explain what you mean by saying that if you revoke a single certificate that it is akin to revoking all variations of that certificate? I don't think I agree. There are situations where the certificate is revoked for reasons (e.g. issues of certificate format/content) that

Re: FW: StartCom inclusion request: next steps

2017-09-18 Thread Nick Lamb via dev-security-policy
On Monday, 18 September 2017 15:50:16 UTC+1, Franck Leroy wrote: > This control that StartCom was not allowed to use our path was technical in > place by the fact that I was the only one to have the intermediate cross > signed certificates, stored (retained) in my personal safe. I see. Three (g

Re: FW: StartCom inclusion request: next steps

2017-09-18 Thread Franck Leroy via dev-security-policy
Le lundi 18 septembre 2017 14:52:27 UTC+2, Ryan Sleevi a écrit : > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Inigo Barreira <> > wrote: > Then they misissued a CA certificate and failed to disclose it, and we > should start an incident report into it. Hello In April 2017 the mozilla policy in force (v2.4)

Re: PROCERT issues

2017-09-18 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 11/09/17 12:03, Gervase Markham wrote: > Thank you for this initial response. It is, however, far less detailed > than we would like to see. I have not had any further updates from PROCERT. I have tried to reflect their responses from this email here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:PROCERT_Issues

Re: FW: StartCom inclusion request: next steps

2017-09-18 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Inigo Barreira wrote: > > We are not seeking to identify personal blame. We are seeking to > understand what, if any, improvements have been made to address such > issues. In reading this thread, I have difficulty finding any discussion > about the steps that Start

Re: StartCom inclusion request: next steps

2017-09-18 Thread James Burton via dev-security-policy
On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 11:38:57 AM UTC+1, Inigo Barreira wrote: > > > > I want to give you some words from one of the "community side" (this is a > > personal opinion and may vary from other opinions inside the community). > > > > Trust is not something that you get, it is something tha

RE: StartCom inclusion request: next steps

2017-09-18 Thread Inigo Barreira via dev-security-policy
> > I want to give you some words from one of the "community side" (this is a > personal opinion and may vary from other opinions inside the community). > > Trust is not something that you get, it is something that you earn. True > StartCom was distrusted because of serious issues with their ol