Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-07-30 Thread Kathleen Wilson
All, Thank you for your thoughtful feedback on the new wiki page. And I apologize for the delay in my response, due to my summer vacation. I have updated the wiki page in an effort to incorporate all of your feedback: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:RootTransferPolicy + Added a second paragraph

RE: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-23 Thread Robin Alden
Brian Howson said.. . I'm not sure if this should be additions to the original inclusion request or a new request, that might depend on whether it is wholesale (like today's Digicert acquisition of Verizon) or piecemeal (like the one root Amazon acquired from Comodo). Amazon have not

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-23 Thread Brian Howson
I misspoke, go daddy. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 12:30 PM Robin Alden ro...@comodo.com wrote: Brian Howson said.. . I'm not sure if this should be additions to the original inclusion request or a new request, that might depend on whether it is wholesale (like today's Digicert

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-23 Thread bkhowson
On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 1:44:59 PM UTC-4, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 6/1/15 4:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 6/1/2015 2:45 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/29/15 4:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/29/2015 2:16 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/28/15 7:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I have

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-03 Thread Moudrick M. Dadashov
-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Policy about root cert transfers On 6/2/2015 10:44 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: I've re-written the Change in Legal Ownership section. Please send me feedback on the new version, and let me know if this is heading in the right direction. https

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/2/2015 10:44 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: I've re-written the Change in Legal Ownership section. Please send me feedback on the new version, and let me know if this is heading in the right direction. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:RootTransferPolicy#Change_in_Legal_Ownership Thanks,

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-02 Thread Peter Kurrasch
then?   Original Message   From: David E. Ross‎ Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 4:32 PM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Policy about root cert transfers On 6/2/2015 10:44 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: I've re-written the Change in Legal Ownership section. Please send me feedback

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-02 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 6/1/15 4:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 6/1/2015 2:45 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/29/15 4:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/29/2015 2:16 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/28/15 7:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I have started the wiki page for this, and I will appreciate your feedback on it.

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-01 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 5/29/15 4:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/29/2015 2:16 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/28/15 7:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I have started the wiki page for this, and I will appreciate your feedback on it. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:RootTransferPolicy Thanks, Kathleen Does the line

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-06-01 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/1/2015 2:45 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/29/15 4:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/29/2015 2:16 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/28/15 7:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I have started the wiki page for this, and I will appreciate your feedback on it.

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-05-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/29/2015 2:16 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/28/15 7:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I have started the wiki page for this, and I will appreciate your feedback on it. https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:RootTransferPolicy Thanks, Kathleen Does the line beginning In all of these cases, the CA

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-05-28 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/28/2015 4:32 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 5/6/15 11:58 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 4/23/15 4:21 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, It has been brought to my attention that we do not have a documented procedure or policy about how to transfer a root certificate from one CA to another.

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-05-28 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 5/6/15 11:58 AM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 4/23/15 4:21 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, It has been brought to my attention that we do not have a documented procedure or policy about how to transfer a root certificate from one CA to another. Do we need to add expectations about root cert

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-05-06 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 4/23/15 4:21 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, It has been brought to my attention that we do not have a documented procedure or policy about how to transfer a root certificate from one CA to another. Do we need to add expectations about root cert transfers to Mozilla's CA Certificate Policy?

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-25 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/24/2015 10:14 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Fri, April 24, 2015 7:52 pm, David E. Ross wrote: If a root has already been added to the NSS database, we must assume that it has undergone the Mozilla process for that inclusion. The process involves looking not only at the root but also at

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-25 Thread David E. Ross
I forgot to include the following point. On 4/24/2015 11:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote: However, all certification authorities whose root certificates are in the NSS database have indeed undergone community review. How else can you explain that a single request to Mozilla from a certification

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 24/04/15 08:17, Man Ho (Certizen) wrote: The term transfer a root certificate is new to me. What are the rationale of such transferal? Move from one location to another location, or from one HSM to another HSM? Ownership of the CA had changed from one organization to another organization?

RE: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ben Wilson
To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Policy about root cert transfers On 2015-04-24 01:21, Kathleen Wilson wrote: 4) Before the new CA begins issuing certs in the transferred CA cert hierarchy, there should be an audit performed at the new CA's site to confirm

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/23/2015 4:21 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, It has been brought to my attention that we do not have a documented procedure or policy about how to transfer a root certificate from one CA to another. Do we need to add expectations about root cert transfers to Mozilla's CA

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Fri, April 24, 2015 6:34 am, Moudrick M. Dadashov wrote: Kathleen, wouldn't be it easier to apply the transferred CA the same requirements as to any other? That means the new CA must have its operations audited under its ***fully completed transfer*** operations. The root and all

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Moudrick M. Dadashov
On 4/24/2015 5:30 PM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Fri, April 24, 2015 6:34 am, Moudrick M. Dadashov wrote: Kathleen, wouldn't be it easier to apply the transferred CA the same requirements as to any other? That means the new CA must have its operations audited under its ***fully completed

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Fri, April 24, 2015 8:20 am, David E. Ross wrote: 2. If the new owner is a certification authority whose root certificates already exist in the NSS database, that root will continued to be considered trusted. However, trust bits and EV status of the transferred root cannot exceed the

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/24/2015 8:58 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote [in part]: On Fri, April 24, 2015 8:20 am, I previously wrote [also in part]: 2. If the new owner is a certification authority whose root certificates already exist in the NSS database, that root will continued to be considered trusted. However,

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Fri, April 24, 2015 7:52 pm, David E. Ross wrote: If a root has already been added to the NSS database, we must assume that it has undergone the Mozilla process for that inclusion. The process involves looking not only at the root but also at the certification authority; at least that

Re: Policy about root cert transfers

2015-04-24 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2015-04-24 01:21, Kathleen Wilson wrote: 4) Before the new CA begins issuing certs in the transferred CA cert hierarchy, there should be an audit performed at the new CA's site to confirm that the transfer was successful and that the root cert is ready to resume issuance. Would this be a