RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Wilson via dev-security-policy
a-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs Ben, I think Gerv addressed Doug's concern and indicated that situation wouldn't fall under this policy. If that's not accurate, it'd be worth an on-list clarificatio

Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Eric Mill via dev-security-policy
am <g...@mozilla.org>; > mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of > 3rd > party subCAs > > Gerv, > > I assume this applies equally to cross signing, but not to "Vanity" CAs >

RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
Markham <g...@mozilla.org>; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs Gerv, I assume this applies equally to cross signing, but not to "Vanity" CAs that are set up and run by the

Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
Hi Doug, On 24/10/17 16:43, Doug Beattie wrote: > I assume this applies equally to cross signing, Yes. > but not to "Vanity" CAs that are set up and run by the CA on behalf of a > customer. If you have physical control of the intermediate and control of issuance, it doesn't apply. Gerv

RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Doug Beattie via dev-security-policy
.beattie=globalsign@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of > Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 11:28 AM > To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party > subCAs >

Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
I think this would be of great benefit to the community. 1) It provides meaningful opportunity to ensure that the Mozilla-specific program requirements are being met. The spate of misissuances discussed in the past few months have revealed an unfortunately common trend of CAs not staying aware of

Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
One of the ways in which the number of organizations trusted to issue for the WebPKI is extended is by an existing CA bestowing the power of issuance upon a third party in the form of control of a non-technically-constrained subCA. Examples of such are the Google and Apple subCAs under GeoTrust,