Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-09-01 Thread Rob Stradling
gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:10 AM *To:* ryan-mozdevsecpol...@sleevi.com *Cc:* mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Peter Bowen *Subject:* Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate In your rush to judgment you arrived at the wrong conclusions, Ryan. No problem, though, as I'll

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-26 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 8/20/14, 2:03 PM, Peter Bowen wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM, wrote: I've encountered a wildcard end-entity certificate on a live server that chains directly to the root cert. There is no intermediate certificate and the root is in the Mozilla trust store. I assume this is a frow

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-26 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Tue, August 26, 2014 8:09 am, fhw...@gmail.com wrote: > In your rush to judgment you arrived at the wrong conclusions, Ryan. No, I really just disagree with you. > No > problem, though, as I'll recap my points in a bit. But first: > The cert in question has as its root the utn-userfirst-har

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-26 Thread fhw843
9:10 AM To: ryan-mozdevsecpol...@sleevi.com Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Peter Bowen Subject: Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate   In your rush to judgment you arrived at the wrong conclusions, Ryan. No problem, though, as I'll recap my points in a bit. But first:  

RE: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-26 Thread Jeremy Rowley
Of fhw...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:10 AM To: ryan-mozdevsecpol...@sleevi.com Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Peter Bowen Subject: Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate In your rush to judgment you arrived at the wrong conclusions, Ryan. No problem, though, as

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-26 Thread fhw843
In your rush to judgment you arrived at the wrong conclusions, Ryan. No problem, though, as I'll recap my points in a bit. But first:The cert in question has as its root the utn-userfirst-hardware certificate. That appears to be a 2048-bit cert. If the wildcard cert should not have been issued dire

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-20 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:18 pm, fhw...@gmail.com wrote: > Hmmm... > > I'll just assume that all the "prior to Effective Date" conditions are > satisfied but both the end and root certs are 2048-bit. I can't speak to > how actively or widely used the cert is nor how costly it would be to > rep

RE: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-20 Thread Jeremy Rowley
Of fhw...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:19 PM To: Peter Bowen Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate Hmmm... I'll just assume that all the "prior to Effective Date" conditions are satisfied but both the end and

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-20 Thread fhw843
Hmmm... I'll just assume that all the "prior to Effective Date" conditions are satisfied but both the end and root certs are 2048-bit. I can't speak to how actively or widely used the cert is nor how costly it would be to replace other than to say I've seen it on a half dozen different hosts.

Re: Wildcard cert, no intermediate

2014-08-20 Thread Peter Bowen
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM, wrote: > I've encountered a wildcard end-entity certificate on a live server that > chains directly to the root cert. There is no intermediate certificate and > the root is in the Mozilla trust store. > > I assume this is a frowned upon practice that will be sto