Re: Policy 2.7 Proposal: Require EKUs in End-Entity Certificates

2019-07-09 Thread horn917--- via dev-security-policy
Wayne Thayer於 2019年3月30日星期六 UTC+8上午4時48分27秒寫道: > The BRs require EKUs in leaf TLS certs, but there is no equivalent > requirement for S/MIME certificates. This leads to confusion such as [1] in > which certificates that are not intended for TLS or S/MIME fall within the > scope of our policies. >

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
I would like to thank everyone for their constructive input on this difficult issue. I would also like to thank DarkMatter representatives for participating in the open, public discussion. I feel that the discussion has now, after more than 4 months, run its course. The question that I originally

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Nadim Kobeissi via dev-security-policy
Dear Wayne, I fully respect Mozilla's mission and I fully believe that everyone here is acting in good faith. That said, I must, in my capacity as a private individual, decry what I perceive as a dangerous shortsightedness and lack of intellectual rigor underlying your decision. I do this as

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Nadim Kobeissi via dev-security-policy
I wanted to supplement my previous email with an observation on how this decision is already being covered by the same news outlet that are being cited in the case against DarkMatter. Reuters wrote this article:

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
The bug requesting that the existing subordinate CAs be added to OneCRL is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1564544 On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 8:31 AM Wayne Thayer wrote: > I would like to thank everyone for their constructive input on this > difficult issue. I would also like to thank

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 10:31:27 AM UTC-5, Wayne Thayer wrote: > DarkMatter has argued [3] that their CA business has always been operated > independently and as a separate legal entity from their security business. > Furthermore, DarkMatter states that once a rebranding effort is completed,

New intermediate certs and Audit Statements

2019-07-09 Thread Kathleen Wilson via dev-security-policy
All, There is some confusion about disclosure of new intermediate certs that are issued to subordinate CAs with currently valid audit statements. Section 5.3.2 of Mozilla's Root Store Policy says: "If the CA has a currently valid audit report at the time of creation of the certificate, then

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread mono.riot--- via dev-security-policy
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 11:23:11 PM UTC+2, Matthew Hardeman wrote: > Truly horrid organizations and/or individuals passively own all kinds of > assets. A strong management team that can be trusted to keep commitments to > sound the alarm if the organization goes off track is one way to

Re: New intermediate certs and Audit Statements

2019-07-09 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:50 PM Kathleen Wilson via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > All, > > There is some confusion about disclosure of new intermediate certs that > are issued to subordinate CAs with currently valid audit statements. > > Section 5.3.2 of

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread mono.riot--- via dev-security-policy
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 11:46:05 PM UTC+2, Matthew Hardeman wrote: > ownership: Francisco Partners. It is difficult for me to see the > difference, objectively speaking. agree, but I think Francisco partners was ... rubbing the wrong way, too; and I think that issue was let go way too

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 11:52 AM Cynthia Revström via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > My view is a bit different, we have lots of CAs already, I think it is more > important to be extra secure rather than to take unnecessary risks. > A position like this is

Re: DarkMatter Concerns

2019-07-09 Thread Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:34 PM mono.riot--- via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > I think it's less about a single person than about an alleged firewalling > of entities that end up being not firewalled at all, but all owned by the > same person in the end. >