Re: Outdated resource links on CCADB

2019-09-23 Thread Jos Purvis (jopurvis) via dev-security-policy
Heh--my bad, I read that as "cabforum.org". I'll correct it there as well, but Kathleen or Wayne would have to handle the CCADB pages, methinks. Kathleen/Wayne: I did get confirmation from Mike at Microsoft that those are the correct URLs for their sites. :) -- Jos Purvis

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Dimitris Zacharopoulos via dev-security-policy
On 2019-09-23 5:00 μ.μ., Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy wrote: No. That’s the more dangerous approach which I’ve tried repeatedly to dissuade. You should produce, and distribute, the Good response with the pre-certificate. Understood. Thank you for the clear guidance. Dimitris.

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:31 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos via dev-security-policy wrote: > On 20/9/2019 11:00 μ.μ., Wayne Thayer wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:56 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos > > mailto:ji...@it.auth.gr>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Using the following practice as described

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Dimitris Zacharopoulos via dev-security-policy
On 20/9/2019 11:00 μ.μ., Wayne Thayer wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:56 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos mailto:ji...@it.auth.gr>> wrote: Using the following practice as described in RFC 6960 should not be a violation of the BRs. That is, answering revoked where a pre-certificate

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Andy Warner via dev-security-policy
The last thing we intended was for our prior mail to be interpreted as negative and without substance.  That said, it is clear our mail was not received in the light in which it was intended. We would like to rectify that. We have been closely monitoring this thread and as it began to converge

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 02:53:26PM -0700, Andy Warner via dev-security-policy wrote: > > 1. The new text added to the Mozilla Recommended and Required Practices for > this topic states only OCSP status is required for precertificates. Many CAs > provide both CRLs and OCSP services and it would

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Andy Warner via dev-security-policy
The CRL question is not about it being a requirement, but rather the fact that it could / would lead to disparate treatment between CRL and OCSP for the same certificate, which does not feel right. On the CT quorum issue, we use a mix of the most available sharded logs and that is the failure

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Curt Spann via dev-security-policy
> The CRL question is not about it being a requirement, but rather the fact > that it could / would lead to disparate treatment between CRL and OCSP for > the same certificate, which does not feel right. The CRL would only grow if the (pre-cert || cert) needed to be revoke for any reason. CRLs

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:53 PM Andy Warner via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > The practice of revoking non-issued certificates would therefore lead to > CRL growth which would further make reliable revocation checking on > bandwidth constrained clients

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 12:50 PM Dimitris Zacharopoulos wrote: > > > On 2019-09-23 1:37 μ.μ., Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:31 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos via > > dev-security-policy wrote: > > > >> On 20/9/2019 11:00 μ.μ., Wayne Thayer wrote: > >>> On

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Dimitris Zacharopoulos via dev-security-policy
On 2019-09-23 1:37 μ.μ., Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:31 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos via dev-security-policy wrote: On 20/9/2019 11:00 μ.μ., Wayne Thayer wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:56 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos mailto:ji...@it.auth.gr>> wrote:

Re: Outdated resource links on CCADB

2019-09-23 Thread Jos Purvis (jopurvis) via dev-security-policy
Thanks for pointing that out! I'll confirm those quickly with Microsoft and then fix up the links. Cheers, Jos -- Jos Purvis (jopur...@cisco.com) .:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | On 9/22/19, 11:16 PM, "dev-security-policy on behalf of Mathew

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Dimitris Zacharopoulos via dev-security-policy
On 2019-09-23 3:02 μ.μ., Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 12:50 PM Dimitris Zacharopoulos mailto:ji...@it.auth.gr>> wrote: [...] Doesn't this break compatibility with older clients? It is older clients that need to see "revoked" which is equivalent to "not good"

Re: DigiCert OCSP services returns 1 byte

2019-09-23 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:50 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos wrote: > > > On 2019-09-23 3:02 μ.μ., Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > It would be useful to identify whether there’s an objective to the > questions, since that might help us cut down things quicker: > - Are you running a 5019 responder or a 6960